View Full Version : What is the average these days for new apprentices?
09-14-2008, 11:16 AM
What is the average these days for new apprentices? What I'm asking is do we know how many are signing on?
I read this thread below....and almost didn't post in Union Issues. I'm not here to tell you guys what to do or how to do nothing! I'm just asking a few questions and hopefully some of you nice gents will answer. If not, ignore this post. :D
Anyway, was wondering are there very many young apprentices hiring on? Say in the last 5 yrs? Since most companies are going through the apprentice programs, I'm sure there is an average wrote down some where with the IBEW. Maybe?
Also, what is the average of JLinemen retiring in the next 5 yrs?
Hey, if one of you nice gents have a link, I can read. Believe it or not, I can. Can't spell worth a hoot and I don't bother with spellcheck when not typing a formal letter, but I can read and comprehend some. Yes, I'm being a smartass, but I consider myself in good company. :D
09-15-2008, 05:26 PM
Out of curiosity, am I being ignored? :D
If I happen to find out, would any of you be interested in knowing? :D
09-15-2008, 10:32 PM
couldnt tell you any hard numbers, all I can do is tell you what we are going through. Our company is scrambling, like most I assume, we hire about 6 line apprentices per year, thats not quite 1 per yard in our local. And the company is trying to rush them through, ready or not, but we are doing our best to fight that, we just held our groundman from being indentured into his apprenticeship, just needs more time on the ground! But the management freaked, said we shouldnt be wasting our time, gave some crazy %, like 25% of jman will retire within 5 years, and we should wash out anyone who cant get through his ground time in 6 months, even though this kid hasnt ever seen a line crew! Dont know if this is what you were looking for, but thats what we are going trough up here!
09-15-2008, 10:57 PM
Ummmmmmm Prentices is kinda like a pair of yer tidy whiteys wif a brown stain inna back. You hate to throw em away but ya jus kaint brag onnem neither, N so you jus leave em the heck alone n hope that sumday the stain will go away n you kin go out dancin wif em.( the tidy whiteys not the prentices)
09-16-2008, 10:30 PM
were i work i hired on as a groundman with another guy a little over a year ago. We have a 6 month probation. He was on for 9 months. He has been on every truck on the crew and cant make it, yet they are going to promote him at the same time as me. Also in the last year we have had 3 lineman leave and we were only allowed to hire 1 back. Got to love working for the government
09-17-2008, 09:21 PM
Itz become the norm to rubber stamp em n step em rite on up. Back inna day they knew within yer first 6 munths if you wuz lineman material er not, n if ya wuznt you cud purdy much plan on a new career.Nowadays I see lottsa washouts hangin in there n makin top step, Not cause they wuz qualified but cause they show up fer werk everday
10-31-2008, 08:56 PM
Looks like if ours can't climb a 45' pole by the third day, pack a 10 kva on their belt, and dance the jig on the way up, they are washed out!
11-19-2008, 07:44 PM
In my work alone......(unrelated to linework)....
There have been no new hires in the office since 2003 (me) which made it 8 positions. There was one position eliminated (mine in 2006), 3 transfers, and 4 retirees. I was the second to the youngest in the office in 2003.
There are now 7 positions in 2008. I am now the 3rd to the oldest in the office. One will retire in 2 yrs and the other in 4 yrs. Then I (most likely) will be the oldest in the office.
Wow....time flies, don't it? :D
11-20-2008, 08:55 AM
There's more Apprentice Want-A-B's then Apprenticeships out there.:( Also, these kids get in the trade and find out it's not for them. Every time an Apprentice gets killed, other Apprentice's see this and it freaks them out and they walk.:(
11-20-2008, 06:13 PM
This was the only link I could find on the averages and it was in Canada. That's the best I can do. http://www.avowners.com/forum/smileys/doh001.gif
The average age of all workers in this group is 46, which is substantially older than the average age of 40 for the general workforce. Only 16% of these workers are under 35, compared to 35% of the workforce on average. Half are between 35 and 54 and a relatively high proportion of these workers are between the ages of 55 to 64 (34% compared to a workforce average of 22%). This is partly due to the extensive training requirements of this work. As it is a relatively small and well-paid occupation, workers who make it into the field are unlikely to leave.
Average employment growth is expected for this occupational group. However, as it is a small group, only about 460 openings are projected in the 10 year period between 2001 and 2011. More than half of these openings (61%) will be brought about by growth in the number of new jobs and the rest will be due to retirements. This growth is connected to the utilities and construction industries in which these workers are employed. Both industries expect healthy, average growth over the forecast period.
11-20-2008, 06:16 PM
Oh, should I move this thread guys? I asked here because I thought maybe the union might know some averages, but if I need to move it I will.
How about this, if no one complains......I'll leave it. :D
11-28-2008, 09:33 AM
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