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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamprat View Post
    Walker: Where are the union pickets outside the White House?

    Governor Scott Walker may not have started out with the intention of making himself a national figure in the fight for fiscal sanity, but he’s not backing away from the role thrust on him by union protests and fleebagging Democrats. In today’s Washington Post, Walker accuses the unions of selective outrage, pointing out that his reforms of collective bargaining for public-employee unions still leave Wisconsin workers with more leverage than federal workers. Why haven’t unions blanketed the White House in protest signs and dictator references?
    Imagine the outrage if government workers did not have collective bargaining for wages and benefits. Consider the massive protests that would be staged by labor leaders all across the country.
    Think I’m talking about Wisconsin? No, I’m talking about the federal government.
    Contrary to what the Obama administration would lead you to believe, most employees of the federal government do not have collective bargaining for wages and benefits. That means the budget reform plan we signed into law in Wisconsin on Friday is more generous than what President Obama offers federal employees.
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    Hypocrisy in Action: Fla. Gov. Rick Scott Preaches Austerity, Then Feathers His Own Nest. Since his election, Scott, says Meadows, is adding numerous new jobs to his payroll and paying off political supporters, some of whom have little experience in their new fields of responsibility. And Scott has increased the pay scale of 10 department directors by $20,000 a year.

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    OHIO SB5
    BILL SUMMARY


    · Prohibits "public employees" from striking.
    · Requires the public employer to deduct from the compensation of a striking employee an amount equal to twice the employee's daily rate of pay for each day or part thereof that the employee engaged in a strike.

    · Expands the definition of "supervisor" with respect to members of a fire or police department.
    · Expands the definition of "supervisor" and "management level employee" with respect to faculty of a state institution of higher education to include those involved in certain decisions.
    · Prohibits employees of community schools from collectively bargaining, except for conversion community schools.
    · Allows the governing authority of a conversion community school to opt out of collectively bargaining with the community school's employees.
    · Limits the ability of other employees to collectively bargain with their public employers, including regional council of government employees and certain members of the unclassified civil service, to allow the employees to bargain only if the public employer elects to do so.

    · Removes continuation, modification, or deletion of an existing collective bargaining agreement from the subject of collective bargaining.

    · Changes the time limitations within which the State Employment Relations Board must act upon a request for recognition.
    · Allows the Board to determine appropriate units, remove classifications from a bargaining unit, or hold an election regardless of an agreement or a memorandum of understanding granting nonexclusive or deemed certified recognition.
    · Prohibits an appropriate unit of firefighters from including rank and file members with members who are of the rank lieutenant and above.
    · Permits certain groups to file a decertification petition demonstrating that 30% of the employees in the described bargaining unit support the petition.

    · Expands the list of subjects that are inappropriate for collective bargaining.
    · Permits public employers to not bargain on any subject reserved to the management and direction of the governmental unit, even if the subject affects wages, hours, and terms and conditions of employment.
    · Prohibits an existing provision of a collective bargaining agreement that was modified, renewed, or extended that does not concern wages, hours, and terms and conditions from being a mandatory subject of collective bargaining.
    · Allows a public employer to engage in specified employment related actions at the employer's discretion unless the public employer specifically agrees otherwise in an express written provision of a collective bargaining agreement, with certain exceptions concerning equipment.

    · Prohibits a public employer that is a school district, educational service center, a conversion community school that collectively bargains, or STEM school from entering into a collective bargaining agreement that does specified things, such as establishing a maximum number of students who may be assigned to a classroom or teacher.
    · Requires collective bargaining agreements between such an education-related public employer and public employees to comply with all applicable state or local laws or ordinances regarding wages, hours, and terms and conditions of employment, unless the conflicting provision establishes benefits that are less than provided in the law or ordinance.
    · Prohibits a collective bargaining agreement from prohibiting a public employer that is in a state of fiscal emergency from serving a written notice to terminate, modify, or negotiate the agreement.
    · Prohibits a collective bargaining agreement from prohibiting a public employer that is in a state of fiscal watch from serving a written notice to modify a collective bargaining agreement so that salary or benefit increases, or both, are suspended.
    · Prohibits an agreement from containing a provision that requires as a condition of employment that the nonmembers of the employee organization pay to the employee organization a fair share fee.
    · Prohibits a collective bargaining agreement entered into or renewed on or after the bill's effective date from containing provisions limiting a public employer's ability to privatize operations.
    · Prohibits a collective bargaining agreement entered into or renewed on or after the bill's effective date from containing provisions for certain types of leave to accrue above listed amounts or to pay out for sick leave at a rate higher than specified amounts.
    · Prohibits a collective bargaining agreement entered into or renewed on or after the bill's effective date from containing certain provisions regarding the deferred retirement option plan.
    · Limits the currently required grievance procedure to unresolved grievances that are based on the disputed interpretations of the written provisions of the agreement.

    · Eliminates the ability of the parties to submit disputes to an agreed-upon dispute resolution procedure.
    · Extends the timelines involved in the dispute resolution process.
    · Expands the list of factors a fact-finder must consider in resolving disputes, and requires the fact-finder to consider as the primary factor the interests and welfare of the public and the ability of the public employer to finance and administer the issues proposed.
    · Eliminates the final offer settlement procedure.
    · Requires the legislative body of the public employer to be the final decision-maker with respect to any dispute that is unresolved during the fact-finding process, and prescribes procedures and requirements for the legislative body to make a determination.
    · Requires any agreement determined by the legislative body to be in effect for three years.
    · Requires, if the legislative body fails to select a last best offer, the public employer's last best offer to become the agreement between the parties.
    · Allows, for certain public employers, if the legislative body selects the last best offer that costs more and the chief financial officer of the legislative body cannot or refuses to determine whether sufficient funds exist to cover the agreement, the last best offers to be submitted to the voters for selection.
    · Prescribes procedures to place the last best offers on the ballot and for that election.

    · Expands the list of unfair labor practices that may be committed by an employee organization, its agents, or public employees and the remedies that may be applied for unfair labor practices committed by those entities.
    · Revises the procedures regarding hearings on unfair labor practice charges.

    · Requires a public employer to report certain information about compensation paid to public employees under a collective bargaining agreement.
    · Repeals the provision requiring the Public Employee Collective Bargaining Law to be liberally construed.

    · Generally eliminates statutory salary schedules and steps.
    · Requires performance-based pay for most public employees, including board and commission members, and makes other, related changes.
    · Requires performance-based pay for teachers based, in part, on evaluations conducted under a policy that is based on a framework for teacher evaluations that has been recommended by the Superintendent of Public Instruction and adopted by the State Board of Education.

    · Caps vacation leave for certain public employees at 7.7 hours per biweekly pay period and limits total accrual for those public employees currently accruing 9.2 hours per pay period.
    · Reduces sick leave accrual for most public employees from 4.6 hours to 3.1 hours per biweekly pay period.
    · Limits public employer contributions toward health care benefit costs to 85%.
    · Requires health care benefits provided to management level employees to be the same as any health care benefits provided to other employees of the same public employer.
    · Requires boards of education to adopt policies to provide leave with pay for school employees and abolishes statutorily provided leave for those employees.
    · Abolishes continuing contracts for teachers, except for those continuing contracts in existence prior to the effective date of the bill and revises the law relating to limited contracts.
    · Prohibits a public employer from paying employee contributions to the five public employee retirement systems.
    · Requires health care benefits provided through a jointly administered trust fund to be the same as the health care benefits provided to other public employees.
    · Allows death benefits paid under the Police and Fire Pension Fund to be paid in accordance with existing salary schedules and increases in salaries.

    · Removes consideration of seniority and length of service, by itself, from decisions regarding a reduction in work force of certain public employees.

    · Creates the Ohio Commission for Excellence in Public Service to establish and guide programs that foster best practices in public service workplaces."


    as reported by H Commerce and Labor
    Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
    Abraham Lincoln

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    Doesnt sound like anything that should be going on in the "Land of the free and the home of the brave"........but definitely a member of the "corporate states of America."
    Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
    Abraham Lincoln

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    I will tell ya what CL........workers in the country, union and non, better wake up RIGHT NOW........and stand together.........and stop this.........and "hear me loud and clear".......this can be stopped..........but it will take some inconvenience, some intestinal fortitude, some sacrafice, some fear, some uncertainty......and a desire to stand together for what is right and a willingness to fight against what it not.

    Anyone who thinks this will not affect them is fooling themselves.......and we all better get off out ASSES and take a stand.....and it WILL take all of us. IT IS TIME.

    If any one of you believes what is going on here is wrong......lets get this show on the road and show them what we think of union busters.....crooks.......and liars.......and politicians that are for sale in these corporate states of America. It is time to unite.
    Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
    Abraham Lincoln

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    Swamprat's constant desecration of President Obama is disgusting, disrespectful, and something that totally disgusts me. He is obsessed with blaming everything that goes wrong in this country on the president, of calling him all kinds of foul names, of repeating ridiculous inuendos of his nationality, color, allegiance, and "big plan" for the country. I can almost quote everything he is going to say about the president after I read the first line of his post.....it has been repeated over and over and over.....it sounds much like a "sick obsession." and yes swamp.....I do mean that......it doesnt sound like a "person of sound mental health speaking......it is too hateful......too constant.......and you continue to do it, while dismissing what all other politicians(republican and teabaggers) are doing to this country, and most especially to the middle class ie the working people of this country. You are not incensed by what they are doing but continue to belittle the president in any way that you can......You dont have to be union or even agree with unions to see this.....you only have to believe that people have a right to make up their own mind if they want to be union or not to know this is wrong.....a fought for and won right.

    So no.....freedom of speech is not a thing with no boundaries......it does not give people the liberty to say anything they want and expect no consequences of any kind. You talk.......you take your chances......there are consequences whether it be personal, social, or legal.......hate is hate no matter how you spell it.......and when it goes on and on against a single individual over and over............an individual who has never done any harm to you or your family, a man in a position of great dignity...it goes beyond freedom of speech. You dont have to agree with the man, like the man, but to continually spew hatred on a level I have rarely seen......well.....think about it....go back and read some of your posts.........tell me I am off base here.....cause I dont think so.
    Last edited by electriklady; 04-02-2011 at 09:47 AM.
    Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
    Abraham Lincoln

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    someone that goes off on a tangent, about a post that hasn't even been made yet....????
    talk about mental instability...

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    Default The Stupid one on here.

    Guess what? Nobody needs to be told who this person is. He seems to think if you are a public sector worker, then the money you earn is not yours to spend as you see fit. Does the system of Communism seem similar to this idea?

    Since public sector workers do not have the right to spend their wages as they see fit then I propose they be prohibited from spending their wages on liquor or tobacco. It shall be law that they only be allowed to spend their wages on necessities of life. Remember grade school? Food, clothing and shelter. Nothing else. Sounds good. Let us propose this to the Tea Party devotees. They will take this up as their mantra.

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    Thumbs up Wisconsin 14

    Had the pleasure of personally meeting and listening to 2 of the 14 courageous Democratic senators from Wisconsin that went to Illinois in order to deny the senate the quorum needed to vote on the "union busting bill" drafted by Gov. Scott Walker. They truly are patriots and are deserving of support from the working men and women of America as they continue to fight for the rights of workers to collectively bargain. Anyone who thinks they are immune from this attack from the right wing idiots that are pushing to DESTROY UNION LABOR are sadly mistaken. We stood, watched and done absolutely NOTHING when Reagan started this assault in 1981. We cannot make the same mistake again. IT'S TIME FOR EVERYONE TO GET INVOLVED!
    " When character is lost, all is lost "

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    Brothers across Borders..........yes.....I like it
    Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
    Abraham Lincoln

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