The end of the line.

[bren guzzi]

This was what we were doing today. " it's the end of the line" ..
well....sort of..this is the last bit of the refurbished line. It's eventually going to be cabled from here but for the moment it's temporarily jumperd to the old line.
doesn't mean we are finished this job. We've loads more new build to do in the middle of the line.

Pictures of the terminal pole.. With single phase transformer ..single lv fuse controlling two customers properties..

This bit of the line goes back in tomorrow ..hopefully EARLY..AS I AM TRAVELING HOME TOMORROW ..( been away three weeks now. .. Need to get home.. :). )

[paul maxwell]

Hi Bren,wondering if you could answer a wee question buddy?i am working with a guy who worked a lot of 11kv-Lv around north wales for 3years there(he been with me for 6 months now),and he was saying it is common practice to wire trannys with abc( from tranny to fuse then back up to Lv):confused:,this is something I have never heard of,just for the simple fact that abc is only single insulated and there for must be treated as a bare conductor,every course I have ever done(and there has been a few)always states that abc must never be handled by hand as although it is insulated it is only single insulated so I don't understand how he was wiring trannys with it?

[bren guzzi]

If ya look close ( not easy I know with my camera phone ) .. Scotish power spec is ... The two services are abc...50mm , the fuse is then wired with 90mm abc. ... The phase and neutral are both brought down the pole the phase is broken and lugged and goes in and out of the lv fuse. The neutral and phase are brought back up and connected to the 50mm service cables..
They reckon that having the neutral next to the fuse enables them to test easier.
Its a B.S. system .. Scotish and southern use. MAC ( double insulated cable..).
Dunno why they bring the neutral down as they could put their tester on the H.V. earth..
The whole system is rubbish. We put all the cables and ( if you can see the HV FUSES) they are on " bales " With flex connections .
trouble is you can't disconnect the flex as they don't install a parking bar to get your rods off.
Im still trying to get them to change the T off x arms so they can carry fuses like in Ireland .... I've started putting it on the risk assessment that their spec takes longer to instal..therefore the linesman is on the pole twice as long..and therefore less safe.

" AND I HAVE TO PAY THESE IDIOTS TO AUTHORISE ME TO WORK ON THEIR SYSTEM." ( teaching your granny to suck eggs springs to mind ) ...
Looks good on paper.... Sh!te on a pole.

second last picture " if ya zoom in" shows the 90 mm abc going up and down to the fuse. ( it's twin 90mm run up an down so it looks like 3 phase and a neutral ) ..

[lewy]

Is that a typical transformer hook up? I never liked having the secondary above the transformer and why such big a bracket for the switches and no lightning arrestors?

[reppy007]

Is that a typical transformer hook up? I never liked having the secondary above the transformer and why such big a bracket for the switches and no lightning arrestors?

Yea I dont like the secondaries going above the pot either,wouldnt fly here,but they dont work anything hot so thats ok......can you imagine the accident rate here if we had that ,its already bad enough.

[bren guzzi]

Is that a typical transformer hook up? I never liked having the secondary above the transformer and why such big a bracket for the switches and no lightning arrestors?

Thats the way they want it done .. As said above not worked on hot.and it's deemed a low risk " lightening area..
the bracket just makes it easier to pull the " solid links" not fuses..
it's all built to accommodate the utility's engineers...
Doesn't make sense a lot of the time " either electrically or practically " But " WHEN IN ROME ". :eek:

[reppy007]

Bren....here in the south we call that bracket an air conditioner bracket.....it would be wierd seeing an air conditioner on a pole,but then again after the bananna photo anything is possible.....You do have air conditioners in Scotland .....right? :D

[bren guzzi]

Bren....here in the south we call that bracket an air conditioner bracket.....it would be wierd seeing an air conditioner on a pole,but then again after the bananna photo anything is possible.....You do have air conditioners in Scotland .....right? :D

Im not in Scotland ... I'm half way between Wales and Ireland at the moment... All at sea.
But very very rare to see an air conditioner in Ireland Scotland or Wales... No need for them here..

Its G.F.C.H.



gas fired fired central heating.:D.

[reppy007]

I understand...kind of like here....its very rare to see a guy in a kilt....you have better chances of seeing a guy in a dress.Still a guy in a kilt still turns heads.

[bren guzzi]

They get confused. :eek::eek:

[wudwlkr]

Bren
Looking at your photos, is that barbed wire wound around the guy wires right below the guy insulators? Also what appears to be some kind of barricade mounted down low on the pole. Is there that much of a problem with people there trying to shimmy up poles and guys?

[bren guzzi]

Bren
Looking at your photos, is that barbed wire wound around the guy wires right below the guy insulators? Also what appears to be some kind of barricade mounted down low on the pole. Is there that much of a problem with people there trying to shimmy up poles and guys?

Yep and yep...

All guys must be barbed wired.. And transformer poles have anti climbing guards fitted... It's one of those stupid regulations to do with insurance... If someone climbs the guy wire or pole and WE haven't tried to prevent it happening... Legally it's " OUR" fault. If we barb wire them it's their fault.

( in reality ..no one tries to shimmy up the poles or guy wires. ).
Another B.S. thing installed in our lines to make life easier for lawyers. :rolleyes:

[Old Line Dog]

Yep and yep...

All guys must be barbed wired.. And transformer poles have anti climbing guards fitted... It's one of those stupid regulations to do with insurance... If someone climbs the guy wire or pole and WE haven't tried to prevent it happening... Legally it's " OUR" fault. If we barb wire them it's their fault.

( in reality ..no one tries to shimmy up the poles or guy wires. ).
Another B.S. thing installed in our lines to make life easier for lawyers. :rolleyes:

That's really unbelievable Bren. Our countrys sure are ALOT different in that regard.

To actually PUT BARBED WIRE on ever Guy wire.....here in 'merica..."Gee, let me count the ways....and...The NUMBER OF LAW SUITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stuff like that in 'merica, is basically an "Invitation" to file a Law suite.

I can't believe your company hasen't been sued into EXTINCTION!!!! :eek::eek:

[T-Man]

Up here we have to put yellow guy guards on every guy. If a snowmobiler goes speeding down a right of way and snags a guy with their neck to the point their body and machine goes one way and their helmet protects their Mellon going the other way. The utility gets sued if there was no guard on that guy. Btw the right of ways are off limits to people and it's posted, but that don't keep them from dirt biking into towers, poles etc. in the summer and shooting insulators in hunting season because they stand still long enough to hit if yer only part drunk. What else happens on R.O.W.s?

[bren guzzi]

That's really unbelievable Bren. Our countrys sure are ALOT different in that regard.

To actually PUT BARBED WIRE on ever Guy wire.....here in 'merica..."Gee, let me count the ways....and...The NUMBER OF LAW SUITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stuff like that in 'merica, is basically an "Invitation" to file a Law suite.

I can't believe your company hasen't been sued into EXTINCTION!!!! :eek::eek:

If it's installed at the time of construction it's no problem..every guy ya make has barb on it ..simple.like putting the insulator in.
if it's built correctly the barb wire will END. three meters from the ground.. .if you look closely at the pictures you will notice ...
any thing live or hazardous to the public is over three meters from the ground..it's easily checked as the L.V.fuse is mounted slightly above three meters ..so if you stand next to our poles the barb wire anti climb guards etc etc.will all easily line in above the FUSE.
if the public want to interfere with anything that can harm them..they have to make a "SPECIAL." Effort to do so. Therefore making them to blame for any injury acquired ...
so it's pretty important we measure correctly coz like you mericans
WE DO LIKE TO SUE WHEN WE CAN.....
look at the second last picture closely ... The yellow danger plate is mounted at 3mts..every thing that can cause harm to mr and mrs public is above that.

[paul maxwell]

One of the boys

[Old Line Dog]

If it's installed at the time of construction it's no problem..every guy ya make has barb on it ..simple.like putting the insulator in.


Not here in 'merica Bren.

"Barbed Wire is ment to Control accesss.

From Cows getting out of the pen or pasture, to convicts getting out of the pen. Not to protect "guy wires" on power poles.....

I just can't wrap my mind around...a power company that actually wraps Barbed Wire around their Guy wires, just south of the Johnny ball.

Different "Strokes" I guess my friend. That siht wouldn't fly here in 'merica.

Seriously? BARBED WIRE??? On Guy Wire????:eek::eek::confused:

[Pootnaigle]

Ummm wudnt bananna peels all round the pole n guy wire be more cheeper n viornmentally more friendlier. That barbed wire stuff cud ceriously hurt a feller Or I recon you cud tie an ole dawg at the butt to skeer em off I recon gettin the utility to jus install evelavors at ever pole is outta the question Round these parts ya kaint hardley find nobody wants to go up one enyways

[Old Line Dog]

That barbed wire stuff cud ceriously hurt a feller Or I recon you cud tie an ole dawg at the butt to skeer em off.

Yea....but if that feller got scared by that old dog tied to the pole...jumped up and grabbed that barbed wire laced Guy wire.....to get away....

I just don't see a good outcome here.:tired::p