Let's see if there are any real linemen on here.

[bren guzzi]

Today's job was this..

we had the three poles ( see pics below )and two span of wire ..the old line we've upgraded made this section obsolete ..it was two cable terminal poles with guys... with an air break switch pole in between ....I had myself, an apprentice, and lineman/ digger driver.
We had a 7 ton " back hoe". NO BUCKET...

the question is

how would you AMERICAN types retire this line..safely " obviously "

( obviously the line is dead ).

I did did it my way. Just curious to see if " all linemen think alike"

tell ya ya how I did it latter, :D

[Pootnaigle]

Ummm wiffa chainsaw and the domino effect

[paul maxwell]

Simple,provided there is no crossings underneath 1 hold middle pole with machine take ur self and apprentice up pole 1,2,3 cut conductor (middle last tho),we call this the old school back to back method or if you wanted the safer method the pullift and clamp,then release dishes,put ropes over channel onto the clamps,wrap both ropes around pole(get digger guy to hold both tight),release pullifts,take pulley of clamp end and then get yourself clear then let digger guy release both ropes slowly.job done 30mins tops:)

[bren guzzi]

Simple,provided there is no crossings underneath 1 hold middle pole with machine take ur self and apprentice up pole 1,2,3 cut conductor (middle last tho),we call this the old school back to back method or if you wanted the safer method the pullift and clamp,then release dishes,put ropes over channel onto the clamps,wrap both ropes around pole(get digger guy to hold both tight),release pullifts,take pulley of clamp end and then get yourself clear then let digger guy release both ropes slowly.job done 30mins tops:)


Sorry paul. No cigar.. :D

[US & CA Tramp]

I am with Poot. Cut the poles down and clean it up on the ground.

[bluestreak]

Everybody in the clear bolt cutters on the guys if that doesn't bring it down than chainsaw, little bit of a mess but definitely safer than climbing old poles if you don't have to.

[Old Line Dog]

Everybody in the clear bolt cutters on the guys if that doesn't bring it down than chainsaw, little bit of a mess but definitely safer than climbing old poles if you don't have to.

Yup.

Cut em high so ya can still pull the stubs.

[reppy007]

Id take the whole line down with the backhoe,pile it up in one place and be ready to load it onto a truck with the backhoe...itds only 3 poles,no chainsaw needed.

[Old Line Dog]

Now....
If you were instructed to "Save the hardware"....I'd have to take a second look a it.....

[reppy007]

Now....
If you were instructed to "Save the hardware"....I'd have to take a second look a it.....

Thats the main question,Ive been with companies that want the poles compleatly naked and some that would care a less.....knowing Bren ...anything is possible.Keep in mind their poles are way shorter than ours are,most likely easy to pull or break with a backhole.

[bren guzzi]

Nice replys.... I'm impressed.
I've no chainsaw so I cut the guys both ends... Pulled both end poles up with the back hoe ( with the wire intact). Then pulled the middle up . Stripped the whole lot on the ground. Took all the steelwork etc away... None re used all scrapped. All done in a couple of hours. No need to climb..... No dramaS.

I was just curious of the calibre of gentlemen on the site.... As I'm the only one that seems to post pictures of "LINEWORK".

[reppy007]

I just had to ask ....how tall were the poles ,maybe 40'?

[bren guzzi]

They were 11mts. Around 35 feet.

[Orgnizdlbr]

They were 11mts. Around 35 feet.


If the poles were safe to climb, the ape would have climbed and wrecked it out...... Apes here can use all the time in the tools as possible.

Now my question for you, many of your pics show poles that I would consider small, you got any REAL POLES across the pond??

[bren guzzi]

If the poles were safe to climb, the ape would have climbed and wrecked it out...... Apes here can use all the time in the tools as possible.

Now my question for you, many of your pics show poles that I would consider small, you got any REAL POLES across the pond??


We've a few real poles...just tendered for a "trident line "new build. Most of the poles will be a bit taller than you've " seen pics of " ;)

As we've posted earlier....NOBODY IS ALLOWED BY LAW TO CLIMB A POLE THEY DONT HAVE TO. ( ape,s included )

[reppy007]

They were 11mts. Around 35 feet.

Heres another question that maybe you can help clear up.....there was a thread that concerned clearance on your highline towers.Now you stated that they were strict on those clearances.....with 35 foot poles set into the ground now the top isnt at that 35 foot level,I know that you cant be framing vertical construction.....but whats your clearances on distribution primary anyway?And what voltages are involved concerning the primary?Its just not common here to have 35 foot poles with primary voltages on it.

[Rob]

Nice replys.... I'm impressed.
I've no chainsaw so I cut the guys both ends... Pulled both end poles up with the back hoe ( with the wire intact). Then pulled the middle up . Stripped the whole lot on the ground. Took all the steelwork etc away... None re used all scrapped. All done in a couple of hours. No need to climb..... No dramaS.

I was just curious of the calibre of gentlemen on the site.... As I'm the only one that seems to post pictures of "LINEWORK".

I'll have to start using me camera more !

[bren guzzi]

Heres another question that maybe you can help clear up.....there was a thread that concerned clearance on your highline towers.Now you stated that they were strict on those clearances.....with 35 foot poles set into the ground now the top isnt at that 35 foot level,I know that you cant be framing vertical construction.....but whats your clearances on distribution primary anyway?And what voltages are involved concerning the primary?Its just not common here to have 35 foot poles with primary voltages on it.

The lines we are building are 11 kv...and the most we go up to is 33 kv..... After that it's classified as transmission ..

the lines are designed for the different clearances relative to their location..it's a different clearance depending if it's over fields....,roads..... Navigable waterways..motorway. Etc etc..
Allowing for the max sag at warmest temperature..

[bones]

Hmm, if I was to wreck that particular line I'd probably back my little mini cooper up to it, hook the guy wire to my little mini hitch, spin my mini wheels to no avail, then complain about how American ideas are ineffectual with British equipment:D