irish system..WHY.?

[bren guzzi]

In Ireland they do this on all LV poles where there is a UG service or earthed pole. They stand them off on "pigtails" ....
There is a reason that this is done in Ireland.

DO YOU KNOW WHY............... ?????????

Tell you later. ;)

[bluestreak]

Is it when your climbing your belt is under the grd not over it in case of a fault?

[T-Man]

Because it's Ireland. . . . wait, because when the wind blows it sounds like a giant wasp buzzing. . .

Only thing I have seen like that here is the ground wire from a Lightening arrestor above a sub-transmission circuit. They stand it off going past the cross arms. Never asked why. I'd be guessing, to increase insulation value so there is less chance of a pole fire at the cross arms? Which wouldn't be the case on a Low Voltage setting like you show here.

Come on Bren, tell us, we're quivering with anticipation;)

[bren guzzi]

Your both wrong.......... But T man is more wrong. :)

[BigClive]

Is the clue on the pole in the distance behind the main one?

[Old Line Dog]

In Ireland they do this on all LV poles where there is a UG service or earthed pole. They stand them off on "pigtails" ....
There is a reason that this is done in Ireland.

DO YOU KNOW WHY............... ?????????

Tell you later. ;)

I take it the first picture is the "pigtail"...shoot off. I was gonna be a smart ass and say..."To get to some DIRT, over the Rocks"!!

No man...Ain't got a clue....Lookin forward to the answer.

[bren guzzi]

Is the clue on the pole in the distance behind the main one?

No Clive. nothing to do with the other pole..

EVERY SINGLE POLE IN SOUTHERN IRELAND THAT HAS EITHER AN EARTH OR ANY CABLE RUNNING DOWN IT HAS THEM STOOD OFF LIKE THIS.
They must be stood off a minimum of ten feet from the top.
I'm off to work now... In the UK ..so I will tell ya this evening.

i will give ya a clue ...only two country's in the world do it like this ( that I'm aware of ) and that's Ireland and Sweden .... And it's nothing to do with any wild life or animals..

[Hebrew]

Does it have anything to do with the climbers that are used?

[reppy007]

sheild for lightining

[Rob]

I've seen Primary risers (in conduit) held off the pole like that for climbing purposes.

My shot in the dark answer: Easier to spot if it's damaged.

[bren guzzi]

Does it have anything to do with the climbers that are used?

Its due to the fact that Irish linemen are only allowed to use " Swedish climbers" and when they are working live it's the only way to give a degree of separation between their feet and an earth.

[jdmjza70r]

i knew the answer to this :P but you gave it up before i got to reply :(

[bren guzzi]

i knew the answer to this :P but you gave it up before i got to reply :(

Easy if ya live in Ireland Conor. :cool:

[reppy007]

Its due to the fact that Irish linemen are only allowed to use " Swedish climbers" and when they are working live it's the only way to give a degree of separation between their feet and an earth.

so...this is a pair of hooks?:nightmare:

[bren guzzi]

so...this is a pair of hooks?:nightmare:

First 8 years as a lineman that's all I used. They have advantages over spikes in some instances if your on a pole for hours they are easier on the legs...you can slip your feet out when up a pole and stand on them like a platform and even stand on them backwards to help you lean out further .. Major disadvantage is climbing very tall poles that are much thinner at the top " you have to change climbers on the way up " ..as the pole narrows.. Some times even twice. And obviously again on the way down. .. They come in all different sizes for different size poles. Picture of first pole top rescue class I ever did. 1981...:eek:

[bobbo]

In Ireland they do this on all LV poles where there is a UG service or earthed pole. They stand them off on "pigtails" ....
There is a reason that this is done in Ireland.

DO YOU KNOW WHY............... ?????????

Tell you later. ;)

when they build risers in Asia, they have an accompanying concrete riser structure with pipe and it is stood off so the man climb. The pot head would hit a stand off then tap. It's built for large facilities.

how would you climb with those on transmission when it would be 30" radius at bottom and 12" at the top?

[bren guzzi]

when they build risers in Asia, they have an accompanying concrete riser structure with pipe and it is stood off so the man climb. The pot head would hit a stand off then tap. It's built for large facilities.

how would you climb with those on transmission when it would be 30" radius at bottom and 12" at the top?

They come in different sizes. As you climb up you change climbers as the poles diameter decrease,s.. Some times you've got to use three pairs to get to the top. ( when we were in Ireland on a fibre optic job) we used to change on the way up but we used to ab sail back down rather than change on the decent. :eek:

[neil macgregor]

they are going to phase them out now bren every esb linesman is going on
a spike climbing coarse the company that makes them have gone bust and nobody else makes them

[reppy007]

Its due to the fact that Irish linemen are only allowed to use " Swedish climbers" and when they are working live it's the only way to give a degree of separation between their feet and an earth.

Hey Bren....do you still use these climbers and if so,do you have two different types?2nd question.....here we have to climb between transformers,sometimes 3 transformers on a pole.Those things almost make it impossible to me.....do you guys climb between transformers with them on or is all of your transformers truck accessible.I would $hit if I opened a bin door and saw them hanging where we hang our hooks here in America!:nightmare:

[bren guzzi]

Hey Bren....do you still use these climbers and if so,do you have two different types?2nd question.....here we have to climb between transformers,sometimes 3 transformers on a pole.Those things almost make it impossible to me.....do you guys climb between transformers with them on or is all of your transformers truck accessible.I would $hit if I opened a bin door and saw them hanging where we hang our hooks here in America!:nightmare:

Well reppy they still use them. But they are gradually being phased out because they aren't making them anymore ..they have built the irish system to accommodate these " Sweedish climbers" If YA get to a transformer pole you can get around the transformer by using a spare pair. You can slip these climbers off and step into another pair positioned above the obstacle .. Even if climbing a very large pole they swap to smaller climbers on the way up. And back to the large ones on the way down.
I agree it's a stupid idea. " BUT THIS WAS THERE CLIMBER OF CHOICE HISTORICALLY. ( and we all know how linesman are famous for resisting change). LOL.

[reppy007]

Well reppy they still use them. But they are gradually being phased out because they aren't making them anymore ..they have built the irish system to accommodate these " Sweedish climbers" If YA get to a transformer pole you can get around the transformer by using a spare pair. You can slip these climbers off and step into another pair positioned above the obstacle .. Even if climbing a very large pole they swap to smaller climbers on the way up. And back to the large ones on the way down.
I agree it's a stupid idea. " BUT THIS WAS THERE CLIMBER OF CHOICE HISTORICALLY. ( and we all know how linesman are famous for resisting change). LOL.

They swap on the pole going up,then again going down....if you say so.......Not to make fun of those climbers,but remember I mentioned bins........theres many of old time lineman that are in graves now.....and THEY would have thrown those off their trucks.What Im saying is that old time American lineman or the head-lineman/lead-lineman had their way with their trucks.....and only their way.They kept what they wanted and $hit-canned what they didnt want on Their truck.Those wouldnt have lasted a day on some trucks.In other words......those climbers wouldnt have left the gate:D

[neil macgregor]

They swap on the pole going up,then again going down....if you say so.......Not to make fun of those climbers,but remember I mentioned bins........theres many of old time lineman that are in graves now.....and THEY would have thrown those off their trucks.What Im saying is that old time American lineman or the head-lineman/lead-lineman had their way with their trucks.....and only their way.They kept what they wanted and $hit-canned what they didnt want on Their truck.Those wouldnt have lasted a day on some trucks.In other words......those climbers wouldnt have left the gate:D
well I hope they are all retired as that is pretty ignorant
to get rid of something you have no knowledge about means your a
fool