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wormy
10-20-2006, 09:01 PM
Swamp asked me what the democrats plan is here it is

Looks pretty good to me swamp

21st Century MilitaryTo Ensure Unparalleled Military Strength and Honor our Troops, we will:


Rebuild a state-of-the-art military by making the needed investments in equipment and manpower so that we can project power to protect America wherever and whenever necessary.


Guarantee that our troops have the protective gear, equipment, and training they need and are never sent to war without accurate intelligence and a strategy for success.


Enact a GI Bill of Rights for the 21st Century that guarantees our troops -- active, reserve, and retired -- our veterans, and their families receive the pay, health care, mental health services, and other benefits they have earned and deserve.

Strengthen the National Guard, in partnership with the nation's Governors, to ensure it is fully manned, equipped and available to meet missions at home and abroad.


War on Terror To Defeat Terrorists and Stop the Spread of Weapons of Mass Destruction, we will:


Eliminate Osama Bin Laden, destroy terrorist networks like al Qaeda, finish the job in Afghanistan and end the threat posed by the Taliban.

Double the size of our Special Forces, increase our human intelligence capabilities, and ensure our intelligence is free from political pressure.

Eliminate terrorist breeding grounds by combating the economic, social, and political conditions that allow extremism to thrive; lead international efforts to uphold and defend human rights; and renew longstanding alliances that have advanced our national security objectives.

Secure by 2010 loose nuclear materials that terrorists could use to build nuclear weapons or "dirty bombs."

Redouble efforts to stop nuclear weapons development in Iran and North Korea.


Homeland Security
To Protect America from Terrorism and Natural Disasters, we will:


Immediately implement the recommendations of the independent, bipartisan 9/11 Commission including securing national borders, ports, airports and mass transit systems.


Screen 100% of containers and cargo bound for the U.S. in ships or airplanes at the point of origin and safeguard America's nuclear and chemical plants, and food and water supplies.


Prevent outsourcing of critical components of our national security infrastructure -- such as ports, airports and mass transit -- to foreign interests that put America at risk.


Provide firefighters, emergency medical workers, police officers, and other workers on the front lines with the training, staffing, equipment and cutting-edge technology they need.


Protect America from biological terrorism and pandemics, including the Avian flu, by investing in the public health infrastructure and training public health workers.
Iraq
To Honor the Sacrifice of Our Troops, we will:


Ensure 2006 is a year of significant transition to full Iraqi sovereignty, with the Iraqis assuming primary responsibility for securing and governing their country and with the responsible redeployment of U.S. forces.


Insist that Iraqis make the political compromises necessary to unite their country and defeat the insurgency; promote regional diplomacy; and strongly encourage our allies and other nations to play a constructive role.


Hold the Bush Administration accountable for its manipulated pre-war intelligence, poor planning and contracting abuses that have placed our troops at greater risk and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars.

Energy Independence
To Free America from Dependence on Foreign Oil, we will:


Achieve energy independence for America by 2020 by eliminating reliance on oil from the Middle East and other unstable regions of the world.


Increase production of alternate fuels from America's heartland including bio-fuels, geothermal, clean coal, fuel cells, solar and wind; promote hybrid and flex fuel vehicle technology and manufacturing; enhance energy efficiency and conservation incentives.

wormy
10-20-2006, 09:12 PM
So...
Lets hear the Democrats "Plan for America" Wormster. The Stock market topped 1200 today. America's economy is doin VERY good man. Unlike what you democrats say.


So...Tell me the Democrats "Plan" to make America better than it is right now.
Really man...Fuckin Speak.

What are democrats gonna do BETTER for America? How will America be BETTER with democrats in control of our country??

Speak my man..
or call your buddy batshit, and let him post his "facts'.

TELL ME...How is America gonna be better with democrats in control of America.

Cut to the chase....
I'm lookin forward to your answer. What's the Democrats Change of PLAN for America?



You asked for the plan so I put it up for you. I can get more details for any subject you would like. By the way, from your vile rant, that you haven't been taking your medicine. Put them in the boxes with the days of the week marked like any other old crazy man

wormy
10-21-2006, 09:53 AM
You asked for the plan and I gave it to you. Sounds pretty good don't yea think. Did you even read it? Want to discuss its points

If what I am seeing is the Republican plan in action it looks like you need a new plan


I'm not defending the Republican plan. It's in your face and it's workin
Thats a joke


TELL America WHY the democrat party will run America better than it is being run right now.
Because they have a plan


BTW, the stock market topped 1200 again today
And your point is??Want to compare stock returns during the Rep vs. Dem administrations. I can, want to.......


and unemployment is at 4.6%
Walmart is hiring...want to talk wages? difference between rich and poor during Bush admin, the growing wealth disparity??


OPEC just cut back on production to stabilize the price of oil at $60 a barrel.
Guess what? So much for your fuckin theory that Bush is controling the price of gas. The futures of oil just went up about $1.25 a barrel today. Gas prices will be goin up again.
Is that my theory. I did not know that. gas going back up. Whats new about that. That is what it has always done during Bush times

Dave@PSE&G
10-21-2006, 05:48 PM
Worm,
WOW!!! The Democratic Plan sounds great!!! Just one thing, though. How in the hell are we gonna pay for all this? Like I've been saying, this is all election year mind-fucking. Nothing will be done because both parties will refuse to cooperate if it means either one has to concede something that is in it's own interest. No one takes into consideration what is good for America. So we continue to chase our own tails.

CHICAGO HAND.
10-23-2006, 08:44 PM
Publication:IBD; Date:Oct 23, 2006; Section:Issues & Insights; Page Number:18


Just Why Democrats Are ‘Dangerous’ When It Comes To America’s Defense




Thomas Sowell, the distinguished Stanford scholar, wrote on this page a week ago that there’s a difference between the major parties: “The Republicans are disappointing and the Democrats are dangerous.” We’d like to take this opportunity to elaborate on his second point.

We and our allies are in a serious global war against fanatical, determined Islamic terrorists who have declared war on America and the free world. Their stated objective is to kill all the Americans they can, eliminate Israel, control and enslave women, and in time overpower and rule with an iron fist nations from Spain to the Far East. They intensely hate our freedom and successful way of life.

While Democrats in Congress always assert they “support our troops,” their political policies and actions have continually undermined our nation’s fight to win the war on terror and defend America. Here is their national security record:

1. On missile defense of America — Democrats voted against it.

2. On the Patriot Act — Democrats voted against it.

3. On tapping foreign terrorists’ phone calls to the U.S. — Democrats voted against it.

4. On tracing terrorists’ money flow between foreign banks — Democrats voted against it.

5. On building a border wall to control illegal immigration and stop dope — dealers, terrorists and criminals — Democrats voted against it.

6. On interrogating captured terrorists — 194 Democrats just voted against it.

7. On telling the world (and our enemy) about a timetable for withdrawing from and deserting Iraq — this is Democrats’ retreat and defeat plan.

Think that’s bad? Here’s the Democrats’ national defense record for the last 40 years:

A. Democrat President Johnson misjudges the Gulf of Tonkin incident, pursues the Vietnam War until a liberal CBS TV announcer thinks we’re losing and says we should quit. So we quit and lose. The victorious communists then kill 2 million innocent civilians.

B. Democrat President Jimmy Carter during the Cold War withdraws U.S. support for our longtime military ally, the Shah of Iran. Carter doesn’t like his human rights treatment of Soviet spies in prison. The shah is overthrown, and Ayatollah Khomeini returns, seizes power and creates an Islamic nation. Opponents are killed, the idea of suicide bombers is introduced to the PLO, and Iran’s oil wealth is used to spawn and support Hezbollah, a terrorist militia that killed 241 Marines in a Beirut bombing and that lately attacked Israel. Iranian radicals storm our embassy, taking 52 American hostages for 444 days. Carter fails in an amateurish attempt to rescue them. Eight military personnel and eight aircraft are lost in a desert foul-up.

Democrat Carter, self-assured and well-meaning but dangerously naive, was responsible for bringing into power an Iranian Islamic regime that’s now creating nuclear weapons to wipe out Israel and blackmail the U.S. and Europe. Iran has further provided weapons and support to Shiite militia and death squads in Iraq and could provide nukes to al-Qaida, with which it has a working relationship.

After the Soviets meet the inexperienced Carter, they invade Afghanistan. Then the communists capture Ethiopia, South Yemen, Angola, Cambodia, Mozambique, Grenada and Nicaragua. The Afghanistan invasion attracts young Osama bin Laden, who raises money and recruits other Muslims to fight the anti-Soviet jihad. After the Soviets leave, this band becomes al-Qaida.

So Carter’s glaring weakness in dealing with the communists and Iran leads directly to both the current terrorist nuclear threat of Iran and the birth of al-Qaida, a group of mass murderers that would never have been possible if the Soviet Union’s Leonid Brezhnev had not been emboldened to invade Afghanistan after seeing an inept, appeasing American president, Carter.

Carter’s ongoing, worldwide damage to America’s future national defense does not end there. In 1994, civilian Carter goes to North Korea and negotiates an agreement that President Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright buy into. The North Koreans use our money and help to secretly spend the next six years in researching and building nukes. Deceived again by a worthless piece of paper, Carter becomes America’s Neville Chamberlain.

These Democrat policies and actions were not only incompetent and ineffective in defending the U.S. They also proved to be highly dangerous, creating the greatest threats to America’s future security — a radical Islamic Iran and a North Korea with nukes, either one of which could hand weapons off to al-Qaida killers. And Carter is still out there giving us advice.

Ronald Reagan inherited from Democrat mismanagement a rapidly expanding communist enemy, 12% inflation (highest in 34 years), 21% interest rates (highest since Abe Lincoln was president), a depleted military and a serious energy crisis. Reagan’s motto was “peace through strength,” not peace through retreat, weakness and accommodation.

He kicked communists out of Grenada and defeated them in Nicaragua, Ethiopia and Afghanistan. He supported those fighting against communist regimes. He attacked Libya’s Moammar Gadhafi, who much later surrendered his nuclear weapons program after America’s military captured the tyrant Saddam Hussein hiding in a hole in the ground.

For eight years congressional Democrats ridiculed and fought all of Reagan’s defense and economic policies. They said he was dumb, stupid, too old and a warmonger who was going to start WWIII with the Soviet Union. Democrats were proved wrong on nearly every vital Reagan policy. His tax cuts set off a huge seven-year economic and technological boom, just as George Bush’s broad tax cuts have done, creating millions of new jobs.

In the end, the Reagan-Bush administration defeated the 70-year-old Soviet Union, and communism disintegrated on the ash heap of history under Republican Reagan’s relentless pressure and determination to build a missile defense system to make the Soviet nuclear arsenal obsolete.

The present terrorist threat to our security did not begin on 9/11, but in the early 1990s, after Democrat Clinton was elected in November 1992. In February 1993, terrorists bombed New York’s World Trade Center. In October 1993 two U.S. Black Hawk helicopters were shot down in Somalia. Eighteen Americans were killed and 73 wounded. In response, Clinton withdrew our forces.

In January 1995, Philippines police uncovered a plot to blow up 12 American airliners over the ocean. In June 1996, Khobar Towers, which housed U.S. Air Force personnel in Saudi Arabia, was blown up, killing 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi and wounding 372 others.

In February 1998, bin Laden declared “war on America,” saying the murder of any American anywhere on the earth was the “individual duty” of every Muslim. In August 1998, al-Qaida blew up U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing 200 and injuring 5,000. In October 2000, 17 U.S. sailors were killed when al-Qaida attacked the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.

According to Michael Scheuer, a 22-year CIA veteran and head of the agency’s bin Laden unit, the 9/11 Commission report confirms that the Clinton administration had at least 10 chances to get the al-Qaida leader, but Sandy Berger, Richard Clarke or Clinton simply could not make the decision to act. The CIA knew where bin Laden was and the military had plans, but they were almost always called off at the last minute.

So when presented with 10 specific opportunities, Clinton’s Democrat administration never took any action that was effective or produced any positive result. From Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s to the policies and actions they push today, Democrats haven’t been just weak and ineffective in defending against America’s enemies.

This year, two other forces are feverishly working to undermine this election and our war on terror. One force is made up of elite national media based mainly on the East Coast. On several occasions they have given our enemy vital defense secrets. They also disgracefully report and relentlessly repeat only bad news. Such dishonest journalism confuses and deliberately misleads the American public. The TV networks have lost 50% of their audience and still refuse to change their one-sided news coverage.

The other force is represented by terrorists who are desperately attacking as many people as possible in Iraq in the weeks leading up to our election. They believe they can intimidate us like they intimidated Spanish voters in the wake of the Madrid bombings and affect our congressional election in a way that will result in our quick withdrawal from Iraq. But quitters never win.

As difficult and complex as the war has been, America has a very strong economy — with over 95% of our population employed and 70% owning homes — plus freedom, opportunity and a standard of living that other countries can only envy.

We’ve also been protected against further terrorist attacks by a strong, competent and determined president.

Dave@PSE&G
10-24-2006, 07:40 PM
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BOTH OF YOU GET THIS YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS

THOSE SOLDIERS ARE AMERICANS. THOSE AMERICANS ARE DYING AT THE HANDS OF FUCKING DRAFT DODGING dubya bush. THERE ARE NOW MORE DEAD SOLDIERS THAT AMERICANS DYING IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.

NOW THAT HIS STAY THE COURSE IS BEING REJECTED, HE STATED 5 FUCKING TIMES THIS WEEKEND THAT HE NEVER SAID IT. FLIP FLOPPING??????. I WILL NOT BE HAPPY TILL THIS BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WAR CRIMES.

I MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO JAIL BUT I WILL STOP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER FROM THAT COUKSURKER EVERY HAVING A PRESIDENTAL LIBRARY. HIS DADY HAS ONE THERE AND ALL HE KILLED WAS HIS OWN CREW BY BAILING OUT AND LEAVING THEM TO CRASH AND DIE. WE DON'T NEED TO COWARDS IN TEXAS.


SO AGAIN LOOK AT THE COWARD DRAFT DODGERS FOR WHAT THEY ARE. THE DEMOCRATS PRODUCES HEROS WHILE THE REPUBLICANS PRODUCE COWARDS AND DRAFT DODGERS.

I thought Clinton was a democrat. And ask John McCain what he thinks about that. And I think Teddy Kennedy left someone to die, also.

"little beaver"
10-24-2006, 09:55 PM
Thank you as well, CH. You've echoed my sentiments exactly. If you are ablebodied and can't prosper in this economy.............just give up and vote socialist and hope to suck a living off your neighbor!

"As difficult and complex as the war has been, America has a very strong economy — with over 95% of our population employed and 70% owning homes — plus freedom, opportunity and a standard of living that other countries can only envy"

wormy
10-25-2006, 04:46 PM
In this period of 'great economic growth', according to the delusional Bush administration, these recently released facts by the Census Bureau are quite telling of the real America:

-In 2003, 2004, and 2005, the percentage of the poor living in deep poverty stood at 42-43 percent, higher than in any prior years on record.

-The percentage of the poor who are below half the poverty line has risen steadily over the last two and half decades: from 34 percent in 1980 to 39 percent in 1990 to 43 percent this year.

-The actual percent of the population who lived in deep poverty in 2005 rose to 5.4 percent!

-The poverty rate is higher in the fourth year of an economic recovery (2005) than it was in the previous recession (2001).

-The median income for non-elderly households was $2,000 lower in 2005 than in the 2001 recession year.

These developments in a so-called 'economic recovery' are unprecedented in economic recoveries (with data going back to the 1960s). They are bad news for the poor, indeed.

wormy
10-25-2006, 05:00 PM
Will the last Republican who is not a sexual pervert please turn out the lights when you leave the room?

wormy
10-25-2006, 05:02 PM
Spokane Mayor Jim West, who championed an anti-gay agenda during his tenure as one of the most powerful Republicans in the Legislature, yesterday admitted to using the trappings of his current office to entice what he thought was a young adult man but denied allegations that he molested two young boys more than 20 years ago.

wormy
10-25-2006, 05:10 PM
Elections are only a few weeks away and it looks like the Republicans are going to lose a lot of them. I guess desperate times require desperate measures. [on screen: RNC's TV ad depicting another terrorist attack by Osama bin Laden, followed by a reminder to vote 11/7]. Let me get this straight. Osama bin Laden is threatening to attack America again, so what we should do is vote for the people who haven't been able to catch him for the last five years?."

wormy
10-25-2006, 08:01 PM
Economic comparison, Democrats versus Republicans
Submitted by mikekohr on March 12, 2006 - 8:31am.Hot Topics
“THE PARTY WITH THE BEST RECORD OF SERVING REPUBLICAN ECONOMIC VALUES IS THE DEMOCRATS, AND IT ISN’T EVEN CLOSE!” -Michael Kingsley-

1). FEDERAL SPENDING: since 1960 Republicans increased Federal Spending by 71% more than have Democrats

2). FEDERAL DEBT: since 1960 Republicans have increased the National debt by 100% more per year than have Democrats.

3). GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT: since 1921, adjusted for inflation, Democrats outproduce Republicans by 43% . Starting in 1940 the Democratic advantage is 23% better.

4). REAL PER CAPITA INCOME: since 1960 Democrats have outperformed Republicans by 30%. (This is perhaps the most important economic statistic of all)

5). INFLATION: since 1960, Democrats outperform Republicans 3.13% to 3.89%

6). UNEMPLOYMENT: since 1960 it decreases in an average Democratic year by 0.3% to 5.33%, and increases in average Republican year by 1.1% to 6.38%.

7). JOB CREATION: from 1945 to 2003, Democrats produced 174,200 jobs per month, Republicans have only produced 60,600 per month. Every time a Democrat succeeds a Republican, job creation soars. Every time a Republican succeeds a Democrat job creation plummets. NO EXCEPTIONS!

8 ). DOW JONES AVERAGE: since 1921 the DOW has increased by 52% more under Democratic administrations

9). THE BOND MARKET: since 1940 the value of 10 year Treasury bonds rose 1.2% under Democrats and fell 0.5% under Republicans

wormy
10-25-2006, 08:04 PM
Don't forget the republicans also condone torture, gutting social security, not raising min wage, but of course they have Rush

wormy
10-25-2006, 08:12 PM
Here's some facts to keep you dims/libs occupied today. Doesn't matter WHEN they happened ...really...does it?

10. Senatoer Daniel Inouye ( Hawaii) Accused in the 1990's by numerous women of sexual harressment. Investigation by Ethics committee dropped.

9. Former Rep. Gus Savage (Illinois) accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989. Investigation dropped.

8. Rep. Barney Franks ( Massachusetts) hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank's residence in the 1980's. Only 2 Democrats voted to censure him.

7.Former Senator Brock Adams (Washington) Forced to stop campaiging after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape.

6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond ( New York ) Arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16 yr.old. Remained in Congress and won re-election. Resigned in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

5. Former Rep. John Young (Texas) Late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. Won re-election in 1976

4. Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democrat House Leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration committee in 1976.

3. Former Re. Gerry Studds (Massachusetts) He was censured for sexual relationship with under age male page in 1993. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for 6 more terms.

2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds (Illinois) The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16 yr. old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

1. Ted Kennedy ( Massachusetts).

Does it matter when it happened I think was your question. I can come up with a list of republicans as long as yours from the past year. Wow you went back 40 years to come up with your list. Does it really matter when it happened? No wrong is wrong whenever and whoever does it. I always have to explain that to you republicans.

Apples
10-25-2006, 10:03 PM
Worm here's a hypothetical for you-
A group of ragheads has scheduled a fun day of beheadings at the elementary school that your children attend. Meanwhile, already in custody is another camel humper who knows it's going to go down. The authorities suspect that ol achmed has info about the plan. Would you want them to use any means possible to get the info? Be honest now. And don't run any of thatliberal party line bullshit about how torture doesn't work.

wormy
10-26-2006, 02:37 PM
Worm here's a hypothetical for you-
A group of ragheads has scheduled a fun day of beheadings at the elementary school that your children attend. Meanwhile, already in custody is another camel humper who knows it's going to go down. The authorities suspect that ol achmed has info about the plan. Would you want them to use any means possible to get the info? Be honest now. And don't run any of thatliberal party line bullshit about how torture doesn't work.

My God, you are defending torture as good? Good for the USA? Good for the soldier in the field? Secret prisons good? Not in the USA I was raised in. We are better than that.

You go ahead and stay in your fantasy land. With your hypothetical stories and racist statements. I will stay in the real world where real situations are taking place

Apples
10-26-2006, 08:01 PM
Yes worm it's a good idea to stay in the real world. However, you should pull your head out of your ass so you can see. By the way you didn't answer the question.

CHICAGO HAND.
10-26-2006, 08:14 PM
http://www.glennbeck.com/realstory/iraq-video.shtml


GOOD VIDEO

wormy
10-27-2006, 12:56 PM
Yes worm it's a good idea to stay in the real world. However, you should pull your head out of your ass so you can see. By the way you didn't answer the question.

What is it with mens asses and you Republicans? By the way yes I did

wormy
10-27-2006, 12:58 PM
Those people who are staging the demonstrations at Our Soldiers Funerals are...

Liberal Democrats. Just like you.

You got any proof?

wormy
10-27-2006, 01:06 PM
Bush signed the bill today dipshit, look who voted against the fence.

Trouble with the bill is that he doesn't have to build a fence with it. The money can be spent on a number of other things



The only downside to all of this is that it is not fully funded yet. An appropriations bill has to be passed. We'll see how that goes, but with the surprising number of those voting in favor of this after all of the talk for months about how a fence isn't worth a damn thing by those Senators who are pro illegal alien.

You tell me if I am wrong. Doesn't Bush support a guest worker program that leads to all the illegal aliens to become citizens. I am sure he does he will tell ya





Below is the roll for who voted for and against this bill with the 19 sick and twisted traitors of this country who would sell out the American people in order to appease Mexico and South America, pander to the Hispanic vote and who wished that an amnesty was pushed through so that even more taxpayer dollars could be distributed to foreigners who shouldn't have been here in the first place.

See above two answers.
These repubs you gotta watch what they do and not what they say

wormy
10-27-2006, 01:08 PM
You'll never hear from me, the Hate and literal shit that comes out of your mouth

Want me to go back and find some of your old posts or did you delete them.

wormy
10-27-2006, 08:22 PM
Tell me where I am wrong in what I said to u and sully.

Sticken with your statement that

Those people who are staging the demonstrations at Our Soldiers Funerals are...

Liberal Democrats. Just like you.

Batts burned ya with that one, take it like a man

wormy
10-28-2006, 08:37 AM
I don't "research" like you guys do.

It is always good when you know what you are talking about

CHICAGO HAND.
11-01-2006, 04:55 PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730016/posts



A GOOD PIC ON THIS LINK, GOOD GOIN JOHNNY!

"little beaver"
11-01-2006, 09:07 PM
"Whether the current dust-up will hurt Mr. Kerry if he does indeed run for president again will not be known for a while, although he conceded on Tuesday that he may think twice before attempting jokes in public. Mr. Cheney, meanwhile, could not resist his own dart. “He was for the joke before he was against it,” Mr. Cheney said."

linemanfrog
11-01-2006, 10:08 PM
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SO AGAIN LOOK AT THE COWARD DRAFT DODGERS FOR WHAT THEY ARE. THE DEMOCRATS PRODUCES HEROS WHILE THE REPUBLICANS PRODUCE COWARDS AND DRAFT DODGERS.

OKAY I am throwing up a big BULLSHIT FLAG on this one......Exactly what do you think your knight in shinning armor Bill Clinton was? A fucking draft dodging hipocritical punk ass bitch who could not carry a real hero's dirty underwear to the damn washing machine. Further more just what damn hero do you know who was a democrat? I have known many true heros during my short 31 years and every single one of them were AMERICANS! They did not care about political parties all they cared about was doing the right thing at the right time. Read Chesty Pullers biography, or maybe Carlos Hathcock's, the boys at the Iwo Jima flag raising, or maybe some of the doughboys that made the first landing in WWI you will not find a damn political affiliation. What you will find is a love for the USA and the desire to do what ever was needed to keep our country, its people, and our freedoms alive. You show me a person with the type of guts, pride, and honor those type of men had and I will vote for them regardless of political ties. Until then.........shut the fuck up and do your job as a citizen of this great country and stop making the rest of us appear as ignorant as you are.

Dave@PSE&G
11-01-2006, 10:11 PM
God bless John Kerry. Just when the Republicans are against the ropes, he opens his mouth. I'm sure all his Democrat buddies are thrilled with his Jay Leno impersonation. At least Al Gore learned how to shut the F*** up!!

Dave@PSE&G
11-01-2006, 10:14 PM
OKAY I am throwing up a big BULLSHIT FLAG on this one......Exactly what do you think your knight in shinning armor Bill Clinton was? A fucking draft dodging hipocritical punk ass bitch who could not carry a real hero's dirty underwear to the damn washing machine. Further more just what damn hero do you know who was a democrat? I have known many true heros during my short 31 years and every single one of them were AMERICANS! They did not care about political parties all they cared about was doing the right thing at the right time. Read Chesty Pullers biography, or maybe Carlos Hathcock's, the boys at the Iwo Jima flag raising, or maybe some of the doughboys that made the first landing in WWI you will not find a damn political affiliation. What you will find is a love for the USA and the desire to do what ever was needed to keep our country, its people, and our freedoms alive. You show me a person with the type of guts, pride, and honor those type of men had and I will vote for them regardless of political ties. Until then.........shut the fuck up and do your job as a citizen of this great country and stop making the rest of us appear as ignorant as you are.
Froggy,
Well said. I can't wait to see Battman's response.

mrgrowl791
11-02-2006, 03:28 AM
You mean that stupid mfing old man who sucks republican dick?

wormy
11-02-2006, 10:34 AM
Research this....
Still got that hurt dont ya buddy

Picture response
1. Kerry can lose an election he is not even in
2. Kerry was tryin to act presidential
3. Kerry made a stupid, thoughtless, blunder, alot like the Irag war

Thank you David letterman

The rest of you are true republicans, cussing right wing nuts who seem to like to talk about dicks

CHICAGO HAND.
11-02-2006, 04:03 PM
LETS TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER WHO WE SHOULD BE FIGHTING. AND WHO FOUGHT BEFORE US.
GOD BLESS AMERICA, ALL OF IT.





A Story of Six Boys


Each year I am hired to go to Washington , DC , with the eighth grade class from Clinton , WI . where I grew up, to videotape their trip. I greatly enjoy visiting our nation's capitol, and each year I take some special memories back with me. This fall's trip was especially memorable.

On the last night of our trip, we stopped at the Iwo Jima memorial. This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and depicts one of the most famous! photographs in history -- that of the six brave soldiers raising the American Flag at the top of a rocky hill on the island of Iwo Jima, Japan, during WW II.

Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses and headed towards the memorial. I noticed a solitary figure at the base of the statue, and as I got closer he asked, "Where are you guys from?"

I told him that we were from Wisconsin . "Hey, I'm a cheese head, too! Come gather around, Cheese heads, and I will tell you a story."

(James Bradley just happened to be in Washington , DC , to speak at the memorial the following day. He was there that night to say good night to his dad, who has since passed away. He was just about to leave when he saw the buses pull up. I videotaped him as he spoke to us, and received his permission to share what he said from my videotape. It is one thing to tour the incredible Monuments filled with history in Washington , D.C. , but it is quite another to get the kind of insight we received that night.)

When all had gathered around, he reverently began to speak. (Here are his words that night.)

"My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin . My dad is on that statue, and I just wrote a book called "Flags of Our Fathers". It is the story of the six boys you see behind me. "Six boys raised the flag. The first guy putting the pole in the ground is Harlon Block. Harlon was an all-state football player. He enlisted in the Marine Corps with all the senior members of his football team. They were off to play another type of game. A game called "War." But it didn't turn out to be a game.

Harlon, at the age of 21, died with his intestines in his hands. I don't say that to gross you out, I say that because there are generals who stand in front of this statue and talk about the glory of war. You guys need to know that most of the boys in Iwo Jima were 17, 18, and 19 years old.

(He pointed to the statue) "You see this next guy? That's Rene Gagnon from New Hampshire If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this photo was taken and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would find a photograph... a photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that in there for protection because he was scared. He was 18 years old. Boys won the battle of Iwo Jima . Boys. Not old men.

"The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant Mike Strank. Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these guys. They called him the "old man" because he was so old. He was already 24. When Mike would motivate his boys in training camp, he didn't say, 'Let's go kill some Japanese' or 'Let's die for our country.' He knew he was talking to little boys. Instead he would say, 'You do what I say, and I'll get you home to your mothers.'

"The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian from Arizona Ira Hayes walked off Iwo Jima . He went into the White House with my dad. President Truman told him, 'You're a hero.' He told reporters, 'How can I feel like a hero when 250 of my buddies hit the island with me and only 27 of us walked off alive?' So you take your class at school, 250 of you spending a year together having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of you hit the beach, but only 27 of your classmates walk off alive. That was Ira Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes died dead drunk, face down at the age of 32 .. ten years after this picture was taken.

"The next guy, going around the statue, is Franklin Sousley from Hilltop, Kentucky . A fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. His best friend, who is now 70, told me, 'Yeah, you know, we took two cows up on the porch of the Hilltop General Store. Then we strung wire across the stairs so the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epsom salts. Yes, he was a fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. Franklin died on Iwo Jima at the age of 19. When the telegram came to tell his mother that he was dead, it went to the Hilltop General Store.
A barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her scream all night and into the morning. The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away.

"The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue, is my dad, John Bradley from Antigo, Wisconsin , where I was raised. My dad lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When Walter Cronkite's producers, or the New York Times would call, we were trained as little kids to say, 'No, I'm sorry, sir, my dad's not here. He is in Canada fishing. No, there is no phone there, sir. No, we don't know when he is coming back.' My dad never fished or even went to Canada Usually, he was sitting there right at the table eating his Campbell 's soup. But we had to tell the press that he was out fishing. He didn't want to talk to the press.

"You see, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. Everyone thinks these guys are heroes, 'cause they are in a photo and on a monument. My dad knew better. He was a medic. John Bradley from Wisconsin was a caregiver. In Iwo Jima he probably held over 200 boys as they died. And when boys died in Iwo Jima , they writhed and screamed in pain.

"When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my dad was a hero. When I went home and told my dad that, he looked at me and said, 'I want you always to remember that the heroes of Iwo Jima are the guys who did not come back. Did NOT come back.'

"So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on Iwo Jima , and three came back as national heroes. Overall, 7,000 boys died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the Marine Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here. Thank you for your time."

Suddenly, the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a flag sticking out of the top. It came to life before our eyes with the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father who was a hero. Maybe not a hero for the reasons most people would believe, but a hero nonetheless.

Let us never forget from the Revolutionary War to the current War on Terrorism and all the wars in-between that sacrifice was made for our freedom. Remember to pray praises for this great country of ours and also pray for those still in murderous unrest around the world. STOP and thank God for being alive and being free at someone else's sacrifice.

REMINDER:
Everyday that you can wake up free, it's going to be a great day. You are free because some vet died to keep you free.

linemanfrog
11-02-2006, 06:18 PM
What kind of crappy answer is that? Here a person claimed that the Democrats were full of heros, but when questioned which democrats he thought were so heroic....well I guess it was an unfair question after all......Democrats and heros go together about like a pole ground and 7200.

"little beaver"
11-02-2006, 08:04 PM
This is the email I sent as a reply to "CHIKENHAWKS".

This is in response to a posting that was on Powerlineman.com. There are a few glaring inaccuracies that I will clear up for you.
Admittingly, Bill Clinton is a very 'engaging' person, but he never served in the military. There was no problem to join The NG during the Vietnam years. It was as simple as going down to the local NG Armory and signing up. He didn't even do that. As per his role as CIC, he had to send people into combat situations with risk to life and limb. Bill is a 'chickenhawk'.
John Kerry is worse than a 'chickenhawk'; he is a RAT. He came back from a questionable deployment to Vietnam and ratted out his buddies for personal gain. That is about as low as you can go.
Ronald Reagan served in the US Army Reserve in the old Horse Cavalry in the 30's. He was the honorary President of the US Horse Cavalry Assoc(which I was a member of) until he passed away. Please correct yourself on this point.
Finally, to say that service in the National Guard albeit for how long is not 'military service' is totally ridiculous and insulting to say the least. George Bush served in the National Guard; he is Veteran by definition of the American Legion. (My Dad served as a Plt Sgt in the Vermont National Guard, 43rd Div, 172nd Inf. WW II). The National Guard played a major role in the Iraq and Afghan deployments. You've insulted and demeaned every NG soldier that has ever served in peace or war.

Steve B you're absolutely right as to: "John Kerry did the democrats a big favor. He cut his own throat on TV and removed the chances of fucking up 2008). I was thinking the same thing. There may be some short term loss, but a Demo gain in the long run...........unfortunately!!

"little beaver"
11-02-2006, 08:22 PM
The 'chickenhawk' thing is another example of left wing distorations and BS. Because I was at one time a member of the US Cavalry Assoc, I had the info on President Reagan.

Here it is from the Reagan Bio: "1937, Ronald Reagan enlisted in the Army Reserve as a Private, but was soon promoted to the rank of 2nd Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry."

It will be interesting to see if I get a response to my email. There was a photo of him on the site: "Society of the Military Horse"

"little beaver"
11-03-2006, 11:50 PM
I never received a reply to my email to the 'chickenhawk' posting. Here is the web site for the photo of Pres Reagan in his Cavalry Officers uniform: www.reagan.utexas.edu/museum/temp/cavalry.html

Now that it has been proven bogus, where did that nonsensical thing originate from?

CHICAGO HAND.
11-04-2006, 06:56 AM
http://www.sacunion.com/pages/sacramento/articles/8638/

wormy
11-04-2006, 09:59 PM
Didn't I ask you a question?


By the last post of yours is bullshit. Make up another story