looking for pizza cutter

[new blood]

Does anyone know where i could buy a pizza cutter? If you have one or any info please email me at smurfgod1@aol.com:confused:


This is a picture of a pizza cutter on a pole strap with the chokerhttp://www.line-man.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=2729

[PA BEN]

Not to sound like I'm not a "as CL puts it a line god" but whats a pizza cutter?:o

[JAKE]

walmart!!

im wondering the same thing whats a pizza cutter? something for skinnin urd?

[Hebrew]

That disc on the safety at the back is a pizza cutter.Supposed to bite into the pole,preventing you from sliding to the ground if you cut out.That safety does not have double locking snap hooks.Thought those single snaps were outlawed in North America?

[JAKE]

i dunno where to get one of them, i have a buckingham pole choker and really like it.

the non locking snaps are grandfathered in if you have one you can use it, you just cant buy new ones. ive got one, i stopped using it when i was workin around a pole and a piece of 4acsr that i hadnt pulled up yet unsnap my safety.

[new blood]

i dont need the safety just the pizza cutter and the choker strap i have the jelco pole choker now and i hate it. if you can help me get one please let me know

[Hebrew]

Just in case you don't get a pizza cutter,New Blood,how about trying a Miller Stopfall?Those chokers are all a pain anyhow.

[HookMan]

The only thing that I know of is the BuckTooth from buckingham

http://www.buckinghammfg.com/linemen/bucksq.html

[old lineman]

Hi Newblood,
I don't know whether you got your pizza cutter yet or not but if you haven't please read on.
The pizza cutter was the first fall restrict system invented and it was invented by an Ontatrio Hydro employee. It is easily defeated by the user because all you have to do is NOT install the cross strap between the pole and the lineman, and your back to climbing while hitch hiking.That's the aim of some linemen whose attitude isn't in the right place, so they like it.
This renders it practically useless but you appear to be doing the right thing to the untrained eye. They don't fool me.
You may say why would anyone do that? They do because then they can climb the pole by the hitch hiking method which is less cumbersome to them. But the whole purpose of the effort is fall protection, isn't it?
In the event of a cut out your coming down.
I've seen many a lineman cheating with it. It's a kin to not wearing a seat belt while driving your vehicle. There are those type of people out there who do that too. And there are linemen also who don't have the right attitude about accident prevention. They're attitude is, " it won't happen to me", or "I've free climbed all these years and I'm not about to change now".
That isn't the spirit of accident prevention you appear to have.
If your earnest about this I have a better idea!
Go to the most reputable company that produces this safety tool and the company who has tested and tested the device until they came up with the best. That's Jelco based in Montrel, Canada.
They have to build their products to satisfy CSA, Hydro Quebec (one of the most discriminating utilities in the world), ANSI standards and any other world standards.
Can it be defeated, NO.
Does it meet any standard, YES.
Is it user friendly, YES if you always used it and NO if your trying to change from free climbing to using a fall restricting system.
In Canada, since all provinces are heading to the total fall protection system coast to coast CSA had to develop a performance criteria. These devices have to perform on dry poles, wet poles and iced poles.
That performance criteria rendered the pizza cutter to the scrap heap where it belonged.
It even forced Jelco the premium manufacturer to develop a fourth generation POLE CHOKER.
The fourth generation pole choker is CSA approved for all categories. That's where to put your money if your serious about fall prevention.
Granted it will be a pain to start with, but apprentices that have never free climbed because of provincial regulation or company policy wouldn't be caught without it.
As for the Buckingham 'Buck Squeeze" if it hasn't been subjected to the CSA testing,therefore it isn't certified as far as I know so I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
As for the Miller (Bacou Dalloz) 'stop fall' unit a likewise comment.
Ontario Hydro (Hydro One) bought hundreds of them and found out during their own internal testing that they just flew apart when subjected to the dynamic forces of a falling maniquin.
Bottom line, if your serious, your safety attitude is to be commended and this is crucial information. I have watched these units develop for the last 20-25 years or so and wouldn't steer you wrong. Let me know what happens.
The Old Lineman

[PA BEN]

So whats wrong with just climbing with your skid, like lineman have been doing from day one?:)

[old lineman]

So whats wrong with just climbing with your skid, like lineman have been doing from day one?:)

Because SKID climbing as you call it is NOT safe in the eyes of the regulators that's why.
I'm talking about linemen climbing poles under Canadian regulations and they are much different that south of the border. The danger is the same but the attitude towards regulations differs and in Canada the regulators are provincial where as in the US the regulators are Federal. OSHA. When the regulators have such a vast area to cover things get lost in the shuffle.
Up here it's easier to keep your eye on the ball because the territories are smaller and so is the workforce.
The premise is that some linemen cut out or otherwise fall from poles and are injured or killed. No matter who you are or where you work you can't deny that.
It doesn't happen to everyone but it happens to some.
That opens the door to possible accidents that our regulators must close.
Well over half of the workers overall who are injured on the job are injured by falling. If the aim is to prevent all accidents sometime in the future you can't ignore any trade.
Actually the roofing industry workers are the worst and they need to be brought into focus.
That being said the line workers are a more high profile group and that's why they jump on our trade. It's also because most utiities have more control over their workers than some little contractor putting a roof on your house who employs 5 people.
It's the biggest fish in the pond thought process. Eventually it will happen everywhere.
Imagine a CEO meeting with the board of directors and making this statement. "This year we experienced 5 lost time injuries". Next year our target is to only have 3 lost time injuries".
The board of directors would go bananas and say, "why isn't your target ZERO". The CEO would be running for cover for sure.
The Old Lineman

[BigClive]

Imagine a CEO meeting with the board of directors and making this statement. "This year we experienced 5 lost time injuries". Next year our target is to only have 3 lost time injuries".
The board of directors would go bananas and say, "why isn't your target ZERO". The CEO would be running for cover for sure.
The Old Lineman

Because no matter what you do there will always be a risk of genuine accidents.

I've always wondered why road accidents are always just considered acceptable.

[PA BEN]

Most men who cutout and fall from a pole are not belted off. If you kick out with your skid around the pole most of the time you will check yourself.