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theweber
01-16-2008, 12:04 AM
How many traffic cones, utility work ahead signs, stop slow paddles and flashing lights. Do you keep on your trucks ?

PA BEN
01-16-2008, 08:38 AM
How many traffic cones, utility work ahead signs, stop slow paddles and flashing lights. Do you keep on your trucks ?

First aid kit, fire extinguisher, flashlights, road flares, orange vests, safety glasses, feeder maps and phone numbers.

Moe
01-16-2008, 08:47 AM
Don't forget the AED!

thrasher
01-17-2008, 09:24 AM
Every truck has first aid kit, flares, fire extingusher, and radio.
Traffic vests are issued to each individual crew member.
Line trucks and bucket trucks carry cones, traffic signs, and paddles.
Each Lead Lineman (crew leader) carries an AED for thier crew.
Every person who works for the company from the CEO to the front desk clerks has first aid and CPR training once a year. All construction crews practice Pole top and Bucket rescue once a year.
I'm probably forgetting something.

PA BEN
01-17-2008, 09:42 AM
I guess AED's just ain't a real consideration Priority to most linemen nowdays.

The Thread sorta died, and there were really no comments of the magnificant articles in the Linemans mag thread....
amblivance...is that spelled right?

Quite obviously, Linemen don't think it's that much of a necessity. Interesting...and too bad.

I still think your LU 1249...is the Cutting edge of Safety thinking for Linemen in our trade. And that AED's, WILL be with all Linecrews...eventually. After enough Linemen die. All the Walmarts and Insurance offices will have to get them first though.

It's sorta like Traffic lights. The state won't put one up at a bad intersection, till enough people die at that intersection.:(

"Linemen are a funny bunch"....:rolleyes:
We've talked to management about AED's. The ambulance response time in our town is quite fast. So management doesnt want to spend the money. So just because some lineman don't bring them up here Doesn't mean:


Quite obviously, Linemen don't think it's that much of a necessity. Interesting...and too bad.

BigClive
01-17-2008, 03:02 PM
We've talked to management about AED's. The ambulance response time in our town is quite fast. So management doesnt want to spend the money. So just because some lineman don't bring them up here Doesn't mean:

Keep in mind that every second waiting for the medical crew reduces the chance of survival dramatically. An AED isn't that expensive. It should be regarded as part of a line crews toolkit.

I'm sure they'll learn in the future. I hope it's not you who has to be the lesson.

old lineman
01-17-2008, 09:58 PM
I read with interest about the traffic control equipment and AED's.
While I agree that these are necessary tools and someday we'll wonder why every line truck wasn't equipped with an AED a lot sooner than they will be.
Linemen work in the worst places possible. Up in the air or down in a vault.
How is it that no one has mentioed rescue equipment?
AED'S aren't worth a tinkers damn to an unconcious lineman hanging in his climbing belt when he's 40 feet above the ground.
We've got to get him on a firm flat surface ASAP. Then we can do something for him.
If he's in a vault laying on the floor because of atmospheric conditions, sudden illness or electrocution he has to be brought to street level before we can do anything for him.
If the line truck carrys linemen climbing poles the truck needs a dedicated pole top rescue rope system, if the truck is a bucket truck it needs to be equipped with a set of block and tackle if the buckets aren't dumping buckets. Even if the buckets dump a set of rescue blocks gives another option.
If the truck is an underground vehicle it needs an atmospheric tester and a means of rescuing a worker from below without the rescuee entering the confined space.
73% of the people that die in confined spaces are would be rescuers.
The Old Lineman

PA BEN
01-17-2008, 11:13 PM
I read with interest about the traffic control equipment and AED's.
While I agree that these are necessary tools and someday we'll wonder why every line truck wasn't equipped with an AED a lot sooner than they will be.
Linemen work in the worst places possible. Up in the air or down in a vault.
How is it that no one has mentioed rescue equipment?
AED'S aren't worth a tinkers damn to an unconcious lineman hanging in his climbing belt when he's 40 feet above the ground.
We've got to get him on a firm flat surface ASAP. Then we can do something for him.
If he's in a vault laying on the floor because of atmospheric conditions, sudden illness or electrocution he has to be brought to street level before we can do anything for him.
If the line truck carrys linemen climbing poles the truck needs a dedicated pole top rescue rope system, if the truck is a bucket truck it needs to be equipped with a set of block and tackle if the buckets aren't dumping buckets. Even if the buckets dump a set of rescue blocks gives another option.
If the truck is an underground vehicle it needs an atmospheric tester and a means of rescuing a worker from below without the rescuee entering the confined space.
73% of the people that die in confined spaces are would be rescuers.
The Old Lineman

We train every year in pole top, bucket truck and vault rescue. Every time we are in the air we take a handline, we have bucket rescue blocks on all bucket trucks. And as far as vaults, we check the atmosphere before entry. The worker entering is hooked to a rescue try pod and the atmosphere is metered all the time.

thrasher
01-18-2008, 12:35 PM
I said I would forget something. Most of our trucks have dump buckets, but there are two with rescue blocks.
As for confined space entry equipment; we don't have any. Not because we don't follow safe practices but because we do not use manholes on our sytem. Our system is located in an area with an extremely high water table (and lots of swamps) so we do not build any below grade vaults or manholes. We have no confined space on our system.
However that did bring up the life perservers and rescue rings for the two boats we have.

old lineman
01-18-2008, 01:22 PM
We train every year in pole top, bucket truck and vault rescue. Every time we are in the air we take a handline, we have bucket rescue blocks on all bucket trucks. And as far as vaults, we check the atmosphere before entry. The worker entering is hooked to a rescue try pod and the atmosphere is metered all the time.


Sounds good, but we are not permitted to use a handline to lower a human because of the possibility of the rope being too weak due to wear and tear. Also the minimum size rope we can use to support a human is 1/2" nylon or a rope of equivalent strength.
That's in new condition.
That being said you do what you've got to do.
The Old Lineman