bucksqeeze

[Iwannabealineman]

hey, i was wondering if anyone knew of a good way to wear in the bucksqueeze to make it not so hard to adjust. I recently started school at NLC and they make us use them, but they are so damn hard to adjust up on top of the pole. ive tried rubbing it on the pole for hours to hopefully wear it in and even tried rubbing it with baby powder but still stiff as can be. Any thoughts or ideas?

[yager024]

I just adjust the leather belt at the bottom to what its suppose to be at the top and only adjust the green belt going up and down.

[BookII]

Here's the best way to handle the bucksqueeze: Throw it in the bottom of a pole hole, set the new pole on top the bucksqueeze and make sure you tamp the sh*t out of the hole!!!

The Bucksqueeze...the anti-christ of linework!!!

And any good linehand will boycott ALL Buckingham products from now on!!!:mad:

[MI-Lineman]

Here's the best way to handle the bucksqueeze: Throw it in the bottom of a pole hole, set the new pole on top the bucksqueeze and make sure you tamp the sh*t out of the hole!!!

The Bucksqueeze...the anti-christ of linework!!!

And any good linehand will boycott ALL Buckingham products from now on!!!:mad:

THAT'S FUNNIER THAN HELL!!:D

And that does bring up a good idea....BOYCOTT THE SH1T OUTTA BUCKINGHAM!!! At least till they come up with somethin better cause fall arrest is unfortunately here to stay!:mad:

[hobbyknocker]

Try the Bashlin Pole Lariat

[MI-Lineman]

Try the Bashlin Pole Lariat

That was tested at our company and it wouldn't work if it fell below your waist?:eek:

[Edge]

the ole ****squezze won't either little brother... matter of fact I think it says in the lit or in the vid to maintain the thing above the waist line....

for what it's worth...

Edge

[MI-Lineman]

the ole ****squezze won't either little brother... matter of fact I think it says in the lit or in the vid to maintain the thing above the waist line....

for what it's worth...

Edge

Huh? We got them here and that hasn't been an issue but if that's true I'll be all over that!!:cool:

In fact it was a sad day yesterday......had our annual mailbo....I mean pole top rescue (20ft:rolleyes:) and we had to be in 100% fall restraint for the first time!(with wood chips still piled at the bottom of the pole?:confused:) Had a choice of either a tether and harness or that damn f$cksqueeze! I chose the f$ucsqueeze cause I have one from helpin with the apprenticeship here! No wonder it's not timed anymore!:rolleyes:

[polemonkey]

take a wire brush to your green saftey. that helps a little to adjust it.

[west coast hand]

Here's the best way to handle the bucksqueeze: Throw it in the bottom of a pole hole, set the new pole on top the bucksqueeze and make sure you tamp the sh*t out of the hole!!!

The Bucksqueeze...the anti-christ of linework!!!

And any good linehand will boycott ALL Buckingham products from now on!!!:mad:

Well said bro...I brought up something at ate safety meeting last week about
How do you use a bucksqueeze on a bakerboard that gay rope is not to be used for working.It's funny how companys make rules with out thinking it out...boycott buckingham...

[BookII]

I hear ya WCH. They've got all the answers, and they know EVERYTHING!!! Just ask them!!!

Something tells me you're probably working for the same out fit that I am?

[justhoofit]

will your companies let you try something else. the jelco in my opinion is better than the **ksqueeze. i have tried the bucksqueeze myself and still managed a pole top that was only 30 seconds slower than free climbin. I know 30 seconds seems like an eternity but i still did it in the first minute. it gets easier to use as you get used to it. a little stiff at first but it gets better. i agree i still like to free climb and it can be cumbersome on busy poles. its the way of the world, things always change and we just have to adapt. But tell me this, to those of you that think in an emergency this might take too long. who's to say osha will be there when something like that happens, i myself know that i would be free climbin my ass up there to get that guy down. if i get fired for not using it so be it. but i know I can get a guy down in a fast enough time and still save his life with the bucksqueeze. just my opinion for what its worth. You should try the jelco out. they will send someone out to demonstrate and let you try it . its easier

and no i dont work for bucksqueeze.

[west coast hand]

How about leave it how it's been for over 100 years free climb and belt off when you get to your work like a lineman...

[heelwinch]

will your companies let you try something else. the jelco in my opinion is better than the **ksqueeze. i have tried the bucksqueeze myself and still managed a pole top that was only 30 seconds slower than free climbin. I know 30 seconds seems like an eternity but i still did it in the first minute. it gets easier to use as you get used to it. a little stiff at first but it gets better. i agree i still like to free climb and it can be cumbersome on busy poles. its the way of the world, things always change and we just have to adapt. But tell me this, to those of you that think in an emergency this might take too long. who's to say osha will be there when something like that happens, i myself know that i would be free climbin my ass up there to get that guy down. if i get fired for not using it so be it. but i know I can get a guy down in a fast enough time and still save his life with the bucksqueeze. just my opinion for what its worth. You should try the jelco out. they will send someone out to demonstrate and let you try it . its easier

and no i dont work for bucksqueeze.

You and everyone else with the ability to free climb ( like a real lineman should be taught) would, I most likely believe, free climb in an emergency.

The problem is that your app. fresh out of school who is on the ground watchin your ass, probably can't free climb. So you and I would gaurantee his safe and speedy rescue, him on the other hand, will get there when he gets there... to save our ass.

[old lineman]

You and everyone else with the ability to free climb ( like a real lineman should be taught) would, I most likely believe, free climb in an emergency.

The problem is that your app. fresh out of school who is on the ground watchin your ass, probably can't free climb. So you and I would gaurantee his safe and speedy rescue, him on the other hand, will get there when he gets there... to save our ass.

Heelwinch, your a horses ass. Period.
Now your calling all linemen who don't free climb second class linemen.
If you work around here you'd use a GD fall restrict system or stay out of the trade.
Do you really think our linemen have choices? They don't, yet your calling them down.
I don't know how old you are and don't care, but if your employer says use it or go home then you'll shit or get off the pot.
On the net you can beat your breast but when it comes down to working or not working I can assure you that you'll wimp out.
The Old Lineman

[Edge]

Heelwinch, your a horses ass. Period.
Now your calling all linemen who don't free climb second class linemen.
If you work around here you'd use a GD fall restrict system or stay out of the trade.
Do you really think our linemen have choices? They don't, yet your calling them down.
I don't know how old you are and don't care, but if your employer says use it or go home then you'll shit or get off the pot.
On the net you can beat your breast but when it comes down to working or not working I can assure you that you'll wimp out.
The Old Lineman

hey crackerjack you might wanna reread his post....

I ain't exactly a fuggin Hellwinch fan but the ole shit has a fuggin point... damned shame you missed it...

go strap on your fuggin jel;co and climb back into your safety van ... Im sure there a crew out there that need wrote up for not havin their wheels chaked...

btw Heel... well said...

for what it's worth...

Edge

[MI-Lineman]

hey crackerjack you might wanna reread his post....

I ain't exactly a fuggin Hellwinch fan but the ole shit has a fuggin point... damned shame you missed it...

go strap on your fuggin jel;co and climb back into your safety van ... Im sure there a crew out there that need wrote up for not havin their wheels chaked...

btw Heel... well said...

for what it's worth...

Edge

I agree! YES I SAID I AGREE ALSO WITH HEEL!!:eek: He said "all good lineman should BE TAUGHT to free climb!" For once I see nothin derogatory in his post!

Anyways, there lies the problem...safety goes up and up and TRAININ GOES DOWN!!:mad:

No one's saying you're "second rate" O.L. but you know damn well there's kids scared sh!tless of leavin the ground now able to enter this trade for that fat check:rolleyes:! In fact when one of the many times this f$ckin topic came up in the past I think you agreed? MAYBE NOT? BUT I THINK YOU DID!!

Bottom line is we of course will wear the damn thing when we have to! DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE UNSAFE FOR NOT USIN IT NOW!!

[willy]

will your companies let you try something else. the jelco in my opinion is better than the **ksqueeze. i have tried the bucksqueeze myself and still managed a pole top that was only 30 seconds slower than free climbin. I know 30 seconds seems like an eternity but i still did it in the first minute. it gets easier to use as you get used to it. a little stiff at first but it gets better. i agree i still like to free climb and it can be cumbersome on busy poles. its the way of the world, things always change and we just have to adapt. But tell me this, to those of you that think in an emergency this might take too long. who's to say osha will be there when something like that happens, i myself know that i would be free climbin my ass up there to get that guy down. if i get fired for not using it so be it. but i know I can get a guy down in a fast enough time and still save his life with the bucksqueeze. just my opinion for what its worth. You should try the jelco out. they will send someone out to demonstrate and let you try it . its easier

and no i dont work for bucksqueeze.

The company I work for gave a choice. Which surprised the hell out of me. I chose the Miller. The Miller was the closet to hitch hicking the old way that I could find. I tried the others they all had small problems. There are alot of Fall Restraints out there. Findin one that fits you the best may be the problem.

As for breaking in the Buttsqueeze take the brown part of the strap and put it in the vise then take the adjust buckle and run it up and down the strap wearing grooves into the brown strap. This will allow you the freedom to push the buckle away from you while you pull the brown strap toward you freely.

[justhoofit]

i dont know where you get your apprentices but every one we get can climb there ass off. they basically dont get hired unless they came from a contractor and all the schools up here teach free climbin. i trust my apes to save my life cause we have them in there hooks every chance we get

[justhoofit]

we never have just a foreman and an ape alone always a journeyman with when pole climbin is being done. the jl or foreman is in his hooks standing by and the grunt is there to well grunt and be ready to call in the radio to report the accident if it happens. maybe you guys do it different. therefore the greenies wont get the chance to get u down.

[farmer]

When you begin climbing at the bottom of the pole they tell you to start at 3 and 9. I start with the paddle and the caribeener at 10 and 2 and by the time you reach the top they are at 3 and 9. It is a different way to climb than anything else. You have to climb more straight up and not so far out from the pole. Without showing you it is hard to describe. I've been climbing with it for 2 years and have just adjust to its ackwardness.

[Iwannabealineman]

thats what i do now, i just adjust the brown strap at the bottom and by the time i get up the 35 footer or 55 footer, its usually adjusted just right...
How come when someone asks a question about the bucksqueeze, it just blows up into a huge argument over something so stupid. I know using the bucksqueeze may seem like a sissy thing to do, but its what the school teaches now, and alot of utility companies are adopting it. PG&E visited us last week, and they said they are really close to making people use it. For those lineman that free climb still, i give you major respect for what you do. Ive done it a few times, and ill be honest, its a little sketch, but i know that when i finish school, im gonna have to be able to use the squeeze, and free climb, cause alot of companies say that you have to know how to do both.

[Trbl639]

Free climbed for damn near 38 years before we were forced into the bucksqueeze......I hate it, but to keep a paycheck I had to use it...am retired now, and if forced again, I would take the Jelco pole choker over the BS.........Face guys, as much as we hate it...before long, it'll be Mandatory everywhere, and then any dumb shit trained monkey can do the job..........instead of the special Breed that we used to be!!!!!!!

[heelwinch]

Heelwinch, your a horses ass. Period.
Now your calling all linemen who don't free climb second class linemen.
If you work around here you'd use a GD fall restrict system or stay out of the trade.
Do you really think our linemen have choices? They don't, yet your calling them down.
I don't know how old you are and don't care, but if your employer says use it or go home then you'll shit or get off the pot.
On the net you can beat your breast but when it comes down to working or not working I can assure you that you'll wimp out.
The Old Lineman

You're right old lineman. I can't even climb out of my chair say nothing of a pole.

If you can't free climb you are second class in my book.

[heelwinch]

we never have just a foreman and an ape alone always a journeyman with when pole climbin is being done. the jl or foreman is in his hooks standing by and the grunt is there to well grunt and be ready to call in the radio to report the accident if it happens. maybe you guys do it different. therefore the greenies wont get the chance to get u down.

It doesn't matter to me if they are an app. or a JL, If they never learned how to free climb, that ticket aint gonna teach them.

And I never worked with a app. that couldn't free climb. There was no such thing when I was doing linework. It's what seperates the men from the boys.

I'm sure that at this point in the game there are more that are against using it then are for, but in 20 years I'll also bet the tables will be turned, in fact by then you'll have a fiberglass horse to every pole or it won't get done.

[MI-Lineman]

we never have just a foreman and an ape alone always a journeyman with when pole climbin is being done. the jl or foreman is in his hooks standing by and the grunt is there to well grunt and be ready to call in the radio to report the accident if it happens. maybe you guys do it different. therefore the greenies wont get the chance to get u down.

KEEP IT THAT WAY!!! Here they get away with it and now are 4 foot rule's goin bye bye!:mad:

[Pootnaigle]

I kinda hafta agree with Heelwinch on this one.......... If you kaint free climb you aint no journeyman in my book. If you can and are forced not to thats a different story. In my beginning days bucket trucks were a rarity and we often worked out of digger derriks with a fiberglass jib and bucket, always just out of position and always in a strain.. after a while a feller would just say helll with that and climb em use hot sticks or walkboards or whatever else he hadda do to get it done and stay outta them contraptions.the new guys commin up wont never lern to freeclimb not because they kaint but because they aint allowed to even try. Just imagine one of em tryin to make that step over some double timbers and a pole band or two.

[Trbl639]

I talked to a hand this weekend at the Rodeo, and he said working for Henkels & McCoy, that they have to use the Squeeze, and sign a waiver that if they fall............that it's their fault!!!! that's totally BS!!

[Special ED]

I've come to the conclusion that this bucksqueeze is gonna make its way to my local and Im biding my time till it does. I dont want it. My local dont want it but damn if its gonna take it to keep food in my belly and a roof over my head I guess I will have to wear it then.. But free climbing should still be taught and practiced. I wont do hot work off hooks (with a board) without someone capable of free climbing. End of story. If my boss dont like it well I was lookin for a job when I found this one. Its my life and my responsibilty same with everyone else. Your best defense against accidents is yourself. No one is gonna cover your ass like you can.


I also agree with the argument that the bucksqueeze is "dumbing down" our trade making it possible for any joe blow to climb a pole. Climbing is half the battle.. Knowing what to do when you get there is another story.

[Trbl639]

I've come to the conclusion that this bucksqueeze is gonna make its way to my local and Im biding my time till it does. I dont want it. My local dont want it but damn if its gonna take it to keep food in my belly and a roof over my head I guess I will have to wear it then.. But free climbing should still be taught and practiced. I wont do hot work off hooks (with a board) without someone capable of free climbing. End of story. If my boss dont like it well I was lookin for a job when I found this one. Its my life and my responsibilty same with everyone else. Your best defense against accidents is yourself. No one is gonna cover your ass like you can.


I also agree with the argument that the bucksqueeze is "dumbing down" our trade making it possible for any joe blow to climb a pole. Climbing is half the battle.. Knowing what to do when you get there is another story.

Amen Brother!! If it is Forced on ya, try to get them to look at the Jelco, in my opinion, it's a better set up than the _uck Squeeze!!! There are at least 5 different places on the Jelco, where if you have to cut the skid, the guy is coming off the pole....no way with the squeeze...........

I was forced into the squeeze and hate it, got a jelco the other day and tried it on a pole in my yard, and it is much better..........not planning on using it, unless I have too, but now I got another choice, besides the squeeze, if I'm working for an outfit that makes ya wear one, and won't let me free climb, which is definately what I love to do!!!!

[BookII]

Free climbed for damn near 38 years before we were forced into the bucksqueeze......I hate it, but to keep a paycheck I had to use it...am retired now, and if forced again, I would take the Jelco pole choker over the BS.........Face guys, as much as we hate it...before long, it'll be Mandatory everywhere, and then any dumb shit trained monkey can do the job..........instead of the special Breed that we used to be!!!!!!!

And when I drag the out fit I'm working for, I'm gonna be FORCED to throw that thing into the dumpster as I walk out the gate!:mad:

BOYCOTT BUCKINGHAM!!!

[Trbl639]

And when I drag the out fit I'm working for, I'm gonna be FORCED to throw that thing into the dumpster as I walk out the gate!:mad:

BOYCOTT BUCKINGHAM!!!

I hear ya Book II !! I didn't shit can mine, might sell it to some young puke who'll have to use it:D Like I said earlier, got my hands on a Jelco Pole choker this past week, gonna use it, if I go back to work, cause if I do, I gotta buy a new skid anyway.....was grandfathered in when we had to got to the locking snaps on a regular skid, and mine doesn't have em:D.....with the Jelco, I can use it like a regular skid, cause it's got the locking snaps and can be used like a regular skid where the Squeeze can't:D


As much as I hate to say it........eventually everybody will have to use the fall restraint stuff........hell where I worked, the Transmission and substa hands have to use a sheppard's hook and retractable lanyard when they are on the steel, if they are 4ft off the ground..........it's coming, we might as well face it, not saying we like it though!!!

[tolex42]

Coming from someone who has been around for a long time, I can attest to the fact that linemen have had issues with new things before, mandatory wearing of hard hats, rubber sleeves, useing a safety strap while erecting steel, CDLs, Fr clothing, fall protective harness', etc.

Linemen will bitch about it, but in a few years everyone will be useing the bucksqueeze, or something like it.

Climbing poles will become obsolete eventually. When I started out you always left a "climbing side" open on a pole. Now many utilities have engineered their standards so that no climbing side is open, therefore you have no choice but to work the pole out of a bucket.

[west coast hand]

Take your best shot Book 2ster.

It will BE... at your Next job man.

...sooner than later. It's just the "New Linework" man. Suck it up...or get out of the business.

I got out of the business.

Pissed me off too. I had another 5-7 good years in the trade. I will always say...."I was SAFETYED, out of the trade".

"Out with the Old"...."In with the new"....that will accept things like the bullshit Fu$ksqueeze. "Progress" man....."Change".:D For the "better", of course.:rolleyes:


SAFETYED OUT doesn't pike let you do whatever you want??? Like work different phases at the sametime???

[Special ED]

SAFETYED OUT doesn't pike let you do whatever you want??? Like work different phases at the sametime???

They will let you work all 3 if its gonna make the job faster.. lol