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Senko11
06-10-2011, 10:02 AM
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and
his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.

"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

"... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950)

"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government."

Patrick Henry

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson

"We must all hang together, or, assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicity. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address.

duckhunter
06-10-2011, 06:19 PM
Think about what they would be called today!

duckhunter
06-10-2011, 07:44 PM
Even hateful, bitter men have rights.

duckhunter
06-10-2011, 09:23 PM
It doesn't say we attacked Germany. It says Germany never attacked us. Why don't you tell us all where and when they attacked the US. Japan did attack us in Pearl Harbor.

Senko11
06-10-2011, 11:57 PM
IT'S GOOD FOR ME FOOL, BECAUSE IT PROVES YOU AND DUCKSUCK WRONG ON EVERY POINT.

BUSH SAID THE IRAQ WAR WOULD BE SHORT AND IT WAS GOING TO BE PAID FOR WITH OIL.THEY WERE AFTER WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. WELL YOU NEVER FOUND THEM YOUR STILL PAYING FOR THAT WAR AND AMERICANS ARE STILL DYING. YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES ARE FOOLS AND IT IS THE REPUBLICANS SCREAMING CUT AND RUN.


Plenty that Obummer "Said" too. And YOU can take that to the BANK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9ywEFRQkQ&feature=related

Senko11
06-11-2011, 12:10 AM
AND WHO RAN SCREAMING AND HOLLERING NOT IN MY STATE. REPUBLICANS. AFTER SAFELY HOUSING THOUSANDS OF ELITE NAZIS IN THE UNITED STATES FOR 5 YEARS. ANOTHER POORLY EDUCATED MORON.

Obviously you didn't watch that link. Dumbass..

Senko11
06-11-2011, 12:21 AM
ALL 14 SECOND YOU CLOWN. AND WHAT DID I JUST POST YOU IGNORANT CLUCK. THE REPUBLICAN RESPONSE. NOT IN MY STATE.



15 seconds Jack! Get it straight!

Senko11
06-11-2011, 12:24 AM
Oh, he's gettin away with murder alright...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQH0Gxyxot8&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Time we do as he suggests. :eek:

Just sayin...

electriklady
06-11-2011, 11:00 AM
I see NO ONE on the right that has even one inkling of working with this president....they actually made it clear that their main objective was to get him out of office in the next election......They are so busy "bashing" him that all they come up with is "insane" ideas to fix the "deficit" that will cut the arms and legs off the children and seniors and workers of this country, while coddling corporate America and the wealthy.....Is Obama supposed to heal this country by himself.....Impossible..........When you are a "mouse" in a roomful of hungry "cats", you dont stand much of a chance.:mad:......you can try to negotiate and work with them all you want......but it seems they just continue to "salivate" and move in for the "kill"

Senko11
06-11-2011, 11:10 AM
I see NO ONE on the right that has even one inkling of working with this president....they actually made it clear that their main objective was to get him out of office in the next election......They are so busy "bashing" him that all they come up with is "insane" ideas to fix the "deficit" that will cut the arms and legs off the children and seniors and workers of this country, while coddling corporate America and the wealthy.....Is Obama supposed to heal this country by himself.....Impossible..........When you are a "mouse" in a roomful of hungry "cats", you dont stand much of a chance.:mad:......you can try to negotiate and work with them all you want......but it seems they just continue to "salivate" and move in for the "kill"


Sure, that's the political game. Just as much if a republican was in office. I personally disagree with 90% of everything that comes out of his mouth, but that is just me. If we had a democratic alternative that appealed more to me that the current republican candidates, I may vote democratic. I just do not in any way like a man that has shown as much disrespect to this country as this he has. I personally cannot wait until his term ends, at this point I don't care who replaces him honestly, in my opinion it couldn't be worse than what we have now. Maybe Mr. Weiner should run.

wtdoor67
06-11-2011, 11:18 AM
Hell off the top of my head I recall the Reuben James was sunk by the Germans in Oct. 41.

The Germans declared war on us just a few days after Pearl Harbor.

We were messing in Viet Nam during Truman. During Eisenhower, Kennedy etc. Hell I remember when the French were fightin in Nam. We were giving them arms and money. That was during Eisenhower's admin. Remember Dien Bien Phu? Come on.

Don't look for your data in those right wing web sites. Find it in a history book or such. Like Swimp quoting that crap that Ollie North said Osam Bin Laden was a bad person etc. Junk research, junk research.

Senko11
06-11-2011, 11:46 AM
Hell off the top of my head I recall the Reuben James was sunk by the Germans in Oct. 41.

The Germans declared war on us just a few days after Pearl Harbor.

We were messing in Viet Nam during Truman. During Eisenhower, Kennedy etc. Hell I remember when the French were fightin in Nam. We were giving them arms and money. That was during Eisenhower's admin. Remember Dien Bien Phu? Come on.

Don't look for your data in those right wing web sites. Find it in a history book or such. Like Swimp quoting that crap that Ollie North said Osam Bin Laden was a bad person etc. Junk research, junk research.

Finding accurate accounts of anything is challenging. Some textbooks are just as inaccurate as snopes, some have their own agenda's. Why do you think universities are liberal breeding grounds?? I make an attempt to verify what I can prior to posting it. If I am unsuccessful I will be the first to admit it and welcome the truth for my own benefit.

duckhunter
06-11-2011, 10:15 PM
So the Greer and the Reuben James were in US waters, and then attacked by Germany?