DO YOU USE . meaursing sticks ?

[bren guzzi]

I was just wondering do you guys use a measuring stick. When we've the conductor up to Sag and all regulated.( You have to what we call , cut in) put the pre formed wrap on and attach it to the pollymerics. Then obviously jumper through. WELL before. We do anything with the preforms. We use a measuring stick that we make up ourselves depending on the length of the pollys and iron work that's used to land the conductor.. Its made to the exact length of the poly, shackles or hooks. We mark the wire EXACTLY the length of the fittings from the landing point. It makes it easier to get everything landed perfectly. Especialy. When we are on single pole sections. We mark all the wires and then you can pull the wire into the centre of the pole to put your wraps on. And when they are marked you can do what you like as long as you start the wrap in the marked place. SORRY if that was a bit long winded.:( I will take a few pics of us doing it tomorow.

[lewy]

We do not use preform grips on conductor mainly because of live line work , we use a 2 bolt clamp so we never have to worry about it affecting our sag. The Hydro One boys use them all the time, but I believe they use a "pigs ear" that goes into the preform clamp for attaching there hoist, then they just wrap the preform once up to sag.

[bren guzzi]

As I said its something we always do when useing preforms. They are very dificult to put on. Because of their length added to polys etc. We use "diving boards on single pole sections to make it easier to reach out. But on H poles we put 4 guys up, one either side of each pole. We use the marking stick so that we are all marrking at exactly the same point on the conductor. On towers we used to mark the line with tape and let the line back down on the winch so the guys could Pres the gun ends on the ground..... Hopefully if its not raining to bad tomorow I will photo us in action.

[bren guzzi]

Did the cutting in today. :)

[bren guzzi]

That was this morning (last pic) this one was after we had finished.

[neil macgregor]

the far away jumper is slightly longer than the other 2
and you've put the side tie on the inside on the nearside pilot pin

[bren guzzi]

The bit that got first picture. To second picture. :)

[topgroove]

I'll give you credit bren. Thats some solid construction, looks like that line will survive 100 years. Over here I doubt you'ld see too much double pole constrution on distribution.

[bren guzzi]

I'll give you credit bren. Thats some solid construction, looks like that line will survive 100 years. Over here I doubt you'ld see too much double pole constrution on distribution.

They gotta be heavey duty because of the weather an terrain. Its only 11'. Kv. :)

[bren guzzi]

the far away jumper is slightly longer than the other 2
and you've put the side tie on the inside on the nearside pilot pin

The side ties are all on thst side because its an ANGLE SECTION. You always put the jumper on the outside of the angle.... Met some guys that know ya from over here. Small world this lineman game... ;)

[neil macgregor]

The side ties are all on thst side because its an ANGLE SECTION. You always put the jumper on the outside of the angle.... Met some guys that know ya from over here. Small world this lineman game... ;)

that wouldnt be hard im famous :-)
if one of them has ginger hair and thinks hes a foreman tell him to feck off for me

[bren guzzi]

that wouldnt be hard im famous :-)
if one of them has ginger hair and thinks hes a foreman tell him to feck off for me

Famous aint the words that they used about ya... :)

[neil macgregor]

wonder what team they support:-)

[lewy]

The bit that got first picture. To second picture. :)

I noticed your hoists are on the arm not on the clevis at the end of the insulator.
http://www.slacan.com/images/catalogue/3-17.jpg This is the type of clevis thimble they would use here if they were to dead end with preforms, the clevis would be attached to the insulator & the pigs ear (slang) would be in the hole with the hoist attached to the pigs ear. I will try & find 1 & take a picture, it is something we never use, we just have our 2 bolt clamp connected to the insulator & our hoist attached to the clamp. On a side note I noticed you use a chain hoist, we always use a web hoist unless dealing with guys.

[bren guzzi]

I noticed your hoists are on the arm not on the clevis at the end of the insulator.
http://www.slacan.com/images/catalogue/3-17.jpg This is the type of clevis thimble they would use here if they were to dead end with preforms, the clevis would be attached to the insulator & the pigs ear (slang) would be in the hole with the hoist attached to the pigs ear. I will try & find 1 & take a picture, it is something we never use, we just have our 2 bolt clamp connected to the insulator & our hoist attached to the clamp. On a side note I noticed you use a chain hoist, we always use a web hoist unless dealing with guys.

They usee "your method" on towers or higher voltage lines. But this is only 11kv . It just looks more because its a heavy construction. We yuse chain hoists necause we are tensioning the copper to around 1.6 tons. The hoists (pull lifts) are 3 ton pull lifts. To take any shock loading . :)

[lewy]

They usee "your method" on towers or higher voltage lines. But this is only 11kv . It just looks more because its a heavy construction. We yuse chain hoists necause we are tensioning the copper to around 1.6 tons. The hoists (pull lifts) are 3 ton pull lifts. To take any shock loading . :)

Wow there would be no sag at all, when we tension our neutrals for spun bus, we use either 3/0 AA or 336 ACSR & we tension it up to 2500 lbs on the dyno & it is zingin tight, for this we will either use a 1.5 ton chain hoist or a 2 ton web hoist & it is the full of your arse on the chain hoist to get it that tight.

[bren guzzi]

Wow there would be no sag at all, when we tension our neutrals for spun bus, we use either 3/0 AA or 336 ACSR & we tension it up to 2500 lbs on the dyno & it is zingin tight, for this we will either use a 1.5 ton chain hoist or a 2 ton web hoist & it is the full of your arse on the chain hoist to get it that tight.

We use those chain hoists because of the length of the chain. We sometimes use 6 ton pullifts on really long pulls because the chins are longer. You need a lot of room to get the wrap on once your up to sag. :). And trust me there is plenty of sag at 1.6 ton on 100mm copper. Remeber we have to sag it at around 5 degrees . And our sag charts allow for heavey ice loading etc. :)

[Highplains Drifter]

We use those chain hoists because of the length of the chain. We sometimes use 6 ton pullifts on really long pulls because the chins are longer. You need a lot of room to get the wrap on once your up to sag. :). And trust me there is plenty of sag at 1.6 ton on 100mm copper. Remeber we have to sag it at around 5 degrees . And our sag charts allow for heavey ice loading etc. :)

I understand why your rigging and measuring that way, if one rigged off of the horse’s collar with your hoist, grip and dyno….you would have to put boards up. This way you can get every thing off of the wood.:)

[bren guzzi]

I understand why your rigging and measuring that way, if one rigged off of the horse’s collar with your hoist, grip and dyno….you would have to put boards up. This way you can get every thing off of the wood.:)

Your dead right. If ya look at the pic . You will see how far we have to put out the line clamp. Rem we've got to pull the line up to tension. And fit the pollys shackles etc and get the pre form wrap on .... I'm 6 ft 2 and have to stretch out full length ( plus I use my hammer to slide the line clamp out. You need the full length of the pullift ..... S T R E T C H .

[topgroove]

You've got to to get yourself a nice light weight hook ladder, You'll love it. Your back will so happy.:)

[bren guzzi]

You've got to to get yourself a nice light weight hook ladder, You'll love it. Your back will so happy.:)

We aren't allowed use hook ladders " I've asked." We use diving boards . These H poles are ok. Its the single pole sections that are a much harder reach. :( we use diving boards for them ones. )