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    Well I am not much on politics. But I do have to agree that affording life has gone way down hill. Up here in the Great White North the universal health care is ( was) a really good thing for us, but since the socialistic policies of Trudeau there is a significant portion of our society sucking of the government tit, bleeding our system. A fellas pay check just doesn't go as far as it used to. It is getting very hard for a young couple to save up a down payment for a house they can't really afford. Heck a linemans wage doesn't go as far as it used to.

    Since I live in Canada , I do not follow US politics, but I will say those 2 choices you have make dumb and dumber (which is which is very hard to tell) look pretty good.

    If I had to choose between those 2 I would choose Trump, at least he is (maybe) a business man.

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    this is a very dumb debate. there is no choice because the electoral college will put clinton in the white house. it is very sad that trump and his followers cant get this ,then they could go away and not be so dissappointed.heil hillary

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    Am I right in thinking that the us only has two political parties?you are either a democrat or a republican or a no voter?please tell me there is more,this can't be the best two that the USA could find☹️

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    Gary Johnson is running as an independent for president. There are other "major" parties, the Libertarian party, the Green Party, the Communist party, but for all intents purposes there are only 2 parties. It is the height of corruption.........
    "It is not the critic who counts:The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena" Teddy Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by bones View Post
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    US politics in a nutshell is whether you vote for your beliefs or your wallet. No matter which party you vote for, you're selling part of your soul to the devil.

    Republicans:

    Conservative
    Small Government
    Private Healthcare
    Pro Gun
    Pro-Life
    Pro-Religion
    Generally Anti-Union
    Less Taxes
    Less Environmental
    Anti-immigration
    Less Laws
    More Freedoms
    Major Demographics: White Men, the Religious, Rural areas

    Democrats:

    Liberal
    Large Government (social programs, often wasteful)
    National/Government Healthcare
    Anti Gun
    Pro-Choice
    Non-Religious
    Generally Pro-Union
    More Taxes
    Pro-Environment / Anti-coal
    Pro-immigration
    More Laws
    Less Freedoms
    Major Demographics: Minorities, Women, Urban areas


    People usually end up voting for their beliefs at the cost to their wallet or for their wallet at the cost of their beliefs. All depends on which one you hold more dear at election time.
    Item # 10 (Anti-immigration) under sub section "Republican" is false. This lie has been retold for 11.5 years by all Democrats, Liberal Republicans and the "News Media Complex", to a point that people don't even think what that statement means. Everybody in the Western Hemisphere is a descendant of someone who migrated from the Eastern Hemisphere. Just a question of how far back in time you want to go.
    The majority of people who support a candidate like Trump, Cruiz, Carson, or Governor like Jan Brewer, or a Senator like Jeff Sessions, or a House Rep like Ron Paul are not against Immigrants. FPN; I don't agree with everything that falls out of the mouths of these people. Do U agree with everything OBAMA/CLINTONS say or do? IT'S HOW TO HANDLE THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HERE ILLEGAL NOW, who get rewarded for jumping to the head of the line, is where we differ. Also, the cavalier attitude towards preventing or reducing the occurrence of these illegals. Who by the way are NOT all from Mexico and they are NOT all here to work hard, or take jobs that US citizens will NOT do.
    Anti-immigration dovetails with other childish statements such as; "Wanting to pollute the environment" "Wanting to throw the elderly out onto the street" "Wanting to starve the little children". A more recent childish statement by the left is; "If you build a 10ft wall, they will use an 11ft ladder." LOL... Additional note, securing a border does not mean closing the boarder and temporarily closing a boarder does not mean it cannot be reopened, when the situation becomes stable. This happens all over the world every day. WHY DOES THE LEFT WANT A WIDE OPEN BOARDER, is the question that should be asked. The answer; cheap labor, illegal drugs, and dependable voters (both parties), also known as "The dependency class".
    Final note, I do believe that legal migration should be tied directly to the # of employed. When the # of employed goes up, so does # of immigrates. When that # goes down, so does the # of immigrates. WE HAVE PEOPLE NOW WHO HAVE NO JOBS, shouldn't they get back to work first, or should they migrate to Australia, Canada or Europe...
    "Liberalism is a mental disorder" quote Michael Savage
    "When you deny a man his livelihood, it becomes personal" quote Chris Hanson

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul maxwell View Post
    Like a national health service?why is that a bad thing,we have the nhs overhear and it is a great institution why/how would you oppose that?

    Because free health care is a joke. If these hippy assholes want the government to take care of them, they need to move over to europe, we need to drop our taxes flat out, ( the reason for the first revolution to begin with) and get the hell out of the UN...

    fuck Clinton. And fuck a federal government.

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    Great British health care is not free,everyone who works pays national insurance,we just pay it direct to the government instead of an insurance company,I and my family(2kids) have used it many times and I can honestly say it is the best institution in the world,the people who work in it are the most dedicated/hard working people you could ever meet who have pride in what they are doing.its just a different system over here I guess.but would you not rather pay your doller to the state that some insurance company(how many millions are these guys making)instead?

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    Republicans are not anti-immigration. They are anti ILLEGAL immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul maxwell View Post
    whats Obama care?
    it's actually called the Affordable Care Act. The media and some call it ObamaCare. It's anything but affordable... Like one potential candidate likes saying... " It's a disaster!!"
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity."

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiffneck View Post
    Item # 10 (Anti-immigration) under sub section "Republican" is false. This lie has been retold for 11.5 years by all Democrats, Liberal Republicans and the "News Media Complex", to a point that people don't even think what that statement means. Everybody in the Western Hemisphere is a descendant of someone who migrated from the Eastern Hemisphere. Just a question of how far back in time you want to go.
    The majority of people who support a candidate like Trump, Cruiz, Carson, or Governor like Jan Brewer, or a Senator like Jeff Sessions, or a House Rep like Ron Paul are not against Immigrants. FPN; I don't agree with everything that falls out of the mouths of these people. Do U agree with everything OBAMA/CLINTONS say or do? IT'S HOW TO HANDLE THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HERE ILLEGAL NOW, who get rewarded for jumping to the head of the line, is where we differ. Also, the cavalier attitude towards preventing or reducing the occurrence of these illegals. Who by the way are NOT all from Mexico and they are NOT all here to work hard, or take jobs that US citizens will NOT do.
    Anti-immigration dovetails with other childish statements such as; "Wanting to pollute the environment" "Wanting to throw the elderly out onto the street" "Wanting to starve the little children". A more recent childish statement by the left is; "If you build a 10ft wall, they will use an 11ft ladder." LOL... Additional note, securing a border does not mean closing the boarder and temporarily closing a boarder does not mean it cannot be reopened, when the situation becomes stable. This happens all over the world every day. WHY DOES THE LEFT WANT A WIDE OPEN BOARDER, is the question that should be asked. The answer; cheap labor, illegal drugs, and dependable voters (both parties), also known as "The dependency class".
    Final note, I do believe that legal migration should be tied directly to the # of employed. When the # of employed goes up, so does # of immigrates. When that # goes down, so does the # of immigrates. WE HAVE PEOPLE NOW WHO HAVE NO JOBS, shouldn't they get back to work first, or should they migrate to Australia, Canada or Europe...
    Well Said !!
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity."

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