Hey just getting back to your answer to my question. NO ON THE JOB TRAINING means your in a classroom enviroment at all times(even in the poleyard). Big difference...that's why at certain places your nothing more than a 2nd step app. Nothing against you, but their are better ways to get to where you want to be. IBEW.COM...JATC/NECA...OUTSIDE LINEMAN...TRAINING. woody