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    Wish there was more folks like her... This day and age everyone wants a hand out and cheap labor. "Why get a job when bama promised me a cadillac?" "I got food stamps and unemployment what more could I want?"

    Then you got the companies pissed cause all their cheap labor is gonna be deported now and the mericans gonna have to start working.

    It stupid bullshit. My previous address was in Tucson and I tell you what the illegals were horrible! Since I've left its gotten alot worse. Now the governor stepped up and did what "barry" wont. and folks get pissed and boycott the state. All I wanna know is what nationality these folks are that are pissed? A real american shouldnt be upset in the slightest. In fact they should be happy that "change is a commin"..

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    I found this recently. This guy is out there, a right wing bigot who could be very dangerous......

    Mexican Standoff
    I don’t know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.
    I don’t blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States of America, as it is a truly wonderful place. But when the first thing you do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I don’t care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity lessons.
    I don’t need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don’t have anything against Mexicans! I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal and if you don’t believe it, try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get.
    What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it’s tantamount to saying, “I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and there’s nothing you can do about it.”
    It’s an “in your face” action and speaking just for me I don’t like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldn’t be happening.
    Where are you, you bunch of lilly livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again?
    And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it won’t mean anything anyway. Besides, what good is an other law going to do when you won’t enforce the ones on the books now?
    And what ever happened to the polls guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain’t paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want something done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday.
    This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can’t happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?
    If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grandchildren will inherit.
    But I guess that doesn’t matter as long as you get re-elected. Shame on you.
    One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to say anything derogatory about any group of people (except Christians) you are going to be screamed at by the media and called a racist, a bigot and anything else they can think of to call you.
    Well I’ve been pounded by the media before and I’m still rockin’ and rollin’ and when it comes to speaking the truth I fear not. And the truth is that the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians are just about to sell out the United States of America because they don’t have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the face reality.
    And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people to have 12 million illegals in this country and turn a round and say, ”Oh it’s ok, ya'll can stay here if you’ll just allow us to slap your wrist.”
    And I know that some of you who read this column are saying “Well what’s wrong with that?”
    I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it. These people could be from Mars as far as we know. We don’t know who they are, where they are or what they’re up to and the way the Congress is going we’re not going to.
    Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well?
    If these people were from Haiti would we be so fast to turn a blind eye to them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan? I think not.
    All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who have crossed the border just to try to better their life. They don’t show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did. They don’t tell you about the living conditions of the Mexican illegals some fat cat hired to pick his crop.
    I want to make two predictions


    No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay they can make to the acre.
    No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of weapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue.
    I don’t know about you but I would love to see just one major politician stand up and say, “I don’t care who I make mad and I don’t care how many votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and I’m going to lead the fight to get it straightened out.”
    I don’t blame anybody for wanting to come to America, but if you don’t respect our immigration laws why should you respect any others.
    And by the way, this is America, and our flag has stars and stripes. Please get that other one out of my face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamprat View Post
    Yeah, you're right man....everything that guy said is just racist and bigot as shit.
    Nice post. I liked it so much, I "Quoted" instead of reply....so I could READ it AGAIN.
    Sh!t, I forgot to put in the author.........









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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamprat View Post
    CHARLIE wrote that???
    Don't suprise me a Damn bit!! "Simple Man"...
    He's my new hero........

    dig thru this and pick your favorite.......

    http://www.charliedaniels.com/soapbox.htm

    There is some straightforward sh!t in there...
    very impressive!

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    Metcalfe’s Arizona-Style Apprehension Measure Offers 140,000+ Illegal Aliens Two Options: Leave PA or Go to Jail

    5/4/2010
    Legislation could save PA taxpayers more than $728 million annually
    Citing mounting taxpayer costs combined with the $1 billion Rendell budget deficit, lost jobs and ever-increasing crime resulting from Pennsylvania’s illegal alien invasion, Representative Daryl Metcalfe (R-Butler) today introduced the newest and toughest addition (House Bill 2479) to the National Security Begins at Home legislative package.
    “With the federal government currently AWOL in fulfilling its constitutional responsibilities to protect American lives, property and jobs against the clear and present dangers of illegal alien invaders, state lawmakers from Arizona to Oklahoma, Georgia to Utah and now Pennsylvania are left with no choice but to take individual action to address this critical economic and national security epidemic,” said Metcalfe. “The purpose of this legislation is to offer every illegal alien residing in Pennsylvania two options, leave immediately or go to jail. Whether you came to steal Pennsylvania jobs or to leech off of our state’s fraud-ridden, ‘close your eyes and verify’ welfare system, once this law is enacted there will be absolutely no economic incentives for you to remain here.”


    Metcalfe’s Arizona-modeled legislation would provide state and local law enforcement with full authority to apprehend Pennsylvania’s estimated 140,000 illegal aliens and several other sweeping reform measures, including:
    • Creating a new criminal offense for illegal aliens who violate federal law by either willfully failing to register as an alien or failing to possess proper proof of such registration when stopped for another primary offense such as a traffic violation.
    • Requiring law enforcement officers to attempt to verify the immigration status of suspected illegal aliens.
    • Creating a new criminal offense for persons who are unlawfully present in the United States and are an unauthorized alien applying for work.
    • Allowing law enforcement officers to arrest illegal aliens for any public offense which would warrant removal from the United States.
    • Creating a new felony offense for intentionally smuggling illegal aliens for profit; and authorizing law enforcement officers to impound any vehicle driven by an illegal alien, or used to transport illegal aliens.
    House Bill 2479 also incorporates several other previously introduced National Security Begins at Home provisions, including cracking down on “Sanctuary” cities, employers who refuse to use the federal government’s FREE e-verify system to verify the immigration status of potential employees or that knowingly hire illegal aliens; and ending access to public benefits without verification of lawful status within the United States.
    Offering support for House Bill 2479 during today’s press conference included Kathleen Appell, Citizens for Immigration Control in Pennsylvania; Mariann Davies Esq., You Don’t Speak for Me; Jeff Lewis, national director, Federal Immigration Reform and Enforcement Coalition (FIRE); and Ned Pfeifer, president, Eagle Forum.


    Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) was also on hand to once again highlight FAIR’s recent research on the ever-increasing taxpayer costs directly associated with Pennsylvania’s illegal alien population, which has nearly tripled since 2000:
    • Pennsylvania has the 16th largest concentration of illegal aliens in the United States.
    • Providing education to the estimated 48,500 illegal alien children (or 2.7 percent of K-12 students) attending Pennsylvania’s public schools costs state taxpayers nearly $660 million annually.
    • Expanding this initial price tag to include unreimbursed health care expenditures and incarceration costs, total state taxpayer costs for illegal aliens increases to $728 million annually or about $150 per Pennsylvania resident household.
    On the upside, FAIR’s report also concluded that the annual fiscal costs to Pennsylvania taxpayers associated with illegal aliens are not inevitable. The complete Cost of Illegal Immigration to Pennsylvanians report can be reviewed and downloaded at FAIRUS.org.
    “Giving Pennsylvania law enforcement full authority to apprehend illegal alien invaders for eventual deportation has everything to do with fully restoring the rule of law in favor of tax-paying Pennsylvania citizens who are currently footing the bill for no less than $728 million annually to clothe, feed, educate, medicate and incarcerate illegal aliens,” said Metcalfe. “Most importantly, this legislation recognizes that Pennsylvania citizens have a constitutional right to expect their rights and laws to be enforced, especially against foreign invaders.”
    Rep. Daryl Metcalfe
    12th District
    Pennsylvania House of Representatives
    (724) 772-3110
    (717) 783-1707
    RepMetcalfe.com
    Contact: Ty McCauslin
    House Republican Public Relations
    (717) 772-9979

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    Yup. Again, genius, we won't tell our little secret will we SR.

    You know the one I am talking about don't ya SR. The one that we Republicans actually benifit most from Illegals. How we use them for cheap labor, and them cast them aside, how we really like them on our health care and other social programs, ya see someone has to provide the medication, food and housing. Which most of the companys that provide such goods and services our owned by us capitalists.

    Then we use the media to scare the American public, have them buy more guns, ammo, security systems, again owned by us capitalists. Then the best part of all, we blame it all on those leftwing nut jobs the DemocRats.

    Those bleeding heart, socialist MR'er's. Makes it all look like it is thier fault. Wanting to show compassion to a fellow human being. And cats like you and me SR. doin thier grunt work for them.

    "Come November MR'er's"

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    Obviously this is a huge problem that needs to be addressed. I feel more emphasis should be put on the capitalists and private citizens who knowingly employ illegal aliens, that makes them an accessory in my eyes, which is a crime also.



    with the stuff going on now, I have to ask the question, would people be so up in arms about the situation if they were sneaking in from say, England, Germany, Denmark, etc. I dont like the people that really dont give a shit, except for the fact that they are not "caucasian", so they disguise their racial intolerance as concerned citizenship. i dont like hyocrites.

    Several years back I moonlighted as a waitress at a large chain truckstop, I worked with several Mexicans and South Americans. I dont know if they were legal or not, never asked them, but I can tell you this, they worked their asses off, and were really nice guys. They all lived together in a tiny little apartment, had one car to accomodate all of them, and sent a huge portion of their meager pay home to their families. the people that bitch they are taking american jobs, bottom line is a lot of the jobs they do have no americans standing in line for that job in the first place. By the way every cook or dishwasher or prep person from this area looked like clowns working compared to these guys from south of the border. My only complaint was the communication barrier, I struggled to understand them and vice versa.

    So I have mixed emotions.....I have seen it first hand, and had a lot of respect for those guys, legal or not, but ......I also see the point of the people that come here and milk our system, and reap more benefits than natural born citizens, or come here to commit further crimes, but to paint them all as doing that is just plain BS.

    I see both sides of the coin on this deal, I just dont know what the answer is though. I dont like Arizona's deal, but then again, I dont know how bad the crime is, I dont know if it is because of a concern over an actual problem or just a political tactic, while the politicians no doubtedly employ a couple illegals themselves to save some of their hard earned $$$$. I would love to know how many wealthy politicians employ illegal persons as domestic care, just to save their $$$ for more important stuff, like porn, bondage clubs, or buying little boys.
    Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”
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    Yup. No SR., I know how sometimes you get confused, why do they need thier vote, don't those Socialist MR'er's already have control, SR. you see I thought you might understand after over 8,600 posts, that saying the same thing over and over shows that your point of view, as genius as it is, really has no merit.

    My point is that is one of our most beloved words, is Capitialism at its best. It shows that although it appears us Republicans protest the most, we capitialize the best, we benifit more by Illeagals, on both ends of the spectrum, and we let those socialist MR'er's demoCrats do the heavy lifting for us. Again genius.

    I have no intention of being a Swamprat, but I will let you sleep on this one, clear your head, and you will see what I am saying is correct.

    One more for you SR., If those socialist MR'er's, the democRats want them working for them too, wouldn't that make them Capitialists?

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    lived in Tucson in 2007 and 2008. Illegals were rampant. Border patrol is really a joke.. You could drive bout 2 hours to Nogalis and walk back and forth across the border no questions asked. Crime was horrible too! Countless nights waking to the dog barkin cause someone was out in the desert behind my house at all hours of the night.. MAny neighbors were robbed some while they were home... And this was in one of the "nice" neighborhoods... But right next to the neighborhood I lived in there was a random driveby on a golf course.. Shot a retiree and killed him.. No reason at all.. Then about half mile up the wash (river in monsoon season) there was a park with a lake everyone would fish at even cops right after a missing persons report was filed.. Fishing was good cause they found alot of folks floatin in that lake.

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    until the people who hire undocumented workers are punished the problem won't go away .

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